From the PhD thesis of Daro Montag, University of Hertfordshire, 2000
Talbot, H. F. 1839. Some account of the art of photogenic drawing or, The
process by which natural objects may be made to delineate themselves
without the aid of the artist's pencil. In Photography: Essays and images.
Edited by Newhall, B. 1980. New York: Museum of Modern Art. 28.
_____ . (1844) 1959. The pencil of nature. London. Reprinted in Image June
1995.
I hope all 3 are useful.
Michael
At 12:11 03/03/2003 +0000, you wrote:
>Dear Michael
>
>Thank you for that quote and an additional research vista - do you
>have the book reference?
>
>Thanks
>
>David
>
>On 2 Mar 2003 at 10:37, Michael A R Biggs wrote:
>
> > Dear George and everyone
> >
> > May I suggest that to reassert the "research agenda", as suggested by
> > George on 26/2/2003, it might be a good idea to ensure a mixture of
> > research students and supervisors/experienced researchers at such meetings.
> > I too, was interested in David's "auto-graph" research, because I recently
> > supervised a PhD on the "auto-graphic" possibilities of non-camera based
> > photography (if mention of photography is not banned on this list). Fox
> > Talbot regarded photography as "the pencil of Nature". About his first
> > image he said "this building, I believe to be the first that was ever yet
> > known to have drawn its own picture."
> >
> > Michael Biggs
> >
> > At 11:21 27/02/2003 +0000, George Whale wrote:
> > >Dear All
> > >
> > >The point I was trying to make was that we need to think seriously about
> > >providing appropriate forums (fora?) for drawing researchers (especially
> > >those doing MPhils and PhDs) to talk about their work in depth and obtain
> > >feedback from peers. At present, there appears to be precious few
> > >opportunities for us to do so. As a Drawing **Research** Network, perhaps
> > >we could discuss how the situation might be improved.
> > >
> > >My suggestion would be to restructure the meetings of the Network. For me,
> > >the most interesting and relevant bits of previous meetings have been
> where
> > >individual (MPhil, PhD) researchers have presented their work, but it's
> > >been obvious that 10 minutes apiece is nowhere near enough time and, with
> > >all the other items on the agenda, there has been little time for
> > >meaningful discussions.
> > >
> > >Is it possible that the bulk of the business of the Network (notifying
> > >members of drawing related activities, publications, exhibitions and
> so on)
> > >could be conducted electronically (on this list), so that future meetings
> > >could be devoted to presentation and discussion of individual research
> > >projects?
> > >
> > >One respondent to my previous message spoke about his own, very
> > >interesting, research topic and said that he "would be delighted to make a
> > >presentation and/or take part in a dialogue about this and related areas
> > >of...research in drawing". I daresay there are other researchers who feel
> > >the same way.
> > >
> > >1. Depending on the length of each meeting, we could invite maybe two or
> > >three PhD/MPhil researchers to make in-depth presentations to the
> group of,
> > >say, 30 minutes each. Ideally, each presenter would circulate a summary
> > >beforehand, allowing group members to think about the issues before the
> > >meeting takes place.
> > >
> > >2. Each presentation would be followed by up to 30 minutes of (hopefully)
> > >informed, focussed discussion about the specific content and context
> of the
> > >research and related methodological issues.
> > >
> > >3. We could ask presenters to provide text and images of their
> > >presentations for publication on the website that Steve Garner put
> together
> > ><www.drawing.org.uk>. In time, these contributions could build into a
> > >valuable repository of current and recent drawing research.
> > >
> > >I do feel very strongly that those of us who are studying for research
> > >degrees or conducting post-doctoral research need to be more assertive in
> > >setting the agenda and ensuring that our work gets a proper hearing.
> > >
> > >Yours
> > >
> > >George Whale.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >At 04:43 PM 2/26/03 +0000, you wrote:
> > > >...or could it be that such divisive dogma is a self fulfilling
> > > >prophesy?
> > > >Martin Salisbury
> > > >Course Leader, MA Children's Book Illustration APU Cambridge
> > > >(Practitioner/Researcher)
> > > >On Wed, 26 Feb 2003 15:52:18 +0000 George Whale <[log in to unmask]>
> > > >wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >http://www.lboro.ac.uk/departments/ac/ad/htmlpages/staff/gwhale.html
> > >
> > >George Whale
> > >Research Associate
> > >Loughborough University School of Art & Design (LUSAD)
> > >Loughborough
> > >Leicestershire
> > >LE11 3TU
> > >UK
> > >
> > >Tel: +44 (0)1509 228967
> > >Mobile: 07944 751088
> > >Fax: +44 (0)1509 228902
> >
> > ************************************************************
> > Dr Michael A R Biggs
> > Reader in Visual Communication
> >
> > Faculty of Art and Design, University of Hertfordshire
> > College Lane, Hatfield, Herts. AL10 9AB
> > United Kingdom
> >
> > Telephone +44 (0)1707 285341
> > Fax +44 (0)1707 285350
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>David Haley
>Research Coordinator
>SEPRU (Social & Environmental Practices Research Unit)
>Faculty of Art and Design
>Manchester Metropolitan University
>Postgraduate Research Centre
>Cavendish Building North
>Cavendish Street
>Manchester M15 6BG
>+44 (0)161 247 1093
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Reader in Visual Communication
Faculty of Art and Design, University of Hertfordshire
College Lane, Hatfield, Herts. AL10 9AB
United Kingdom
Telephone +44 (0)1707 285341
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