Drat! But "trouble" is at least ME - how late could -shaw be a name-forming
element? I am not happy with an OE personal name *Trubbe !
John Briggs
John Insley wrote:
> Trouble < Old French torble < Latin turbulus doesn't work either, so it's
> back to the etymological dictionaries.
>
> John Insley
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> From: John Briggs <[log in to unmask]>
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> Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2002 6:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [ESL] Trubshaw
>
>
> > The word 'truffle' itself doesn't seem to be particularly early in
> English.
> > I'm not too happy about Occitan being spoken in north Staffordshire! I
> > think Richard Coates is right: "trouble" seems the most likely!
> >
> > John Briggs
> >
> > Linda Corrigan wrote:
> >
> >
> > > The Penguin Dictionary of Surnames, suggests 'truffle wood' although
it
> > > also says that the first instance of 'trub' meaning truffle is late -
> > > 1668, and I can't find a reference for this.
> > >
> > > I just wonder if it's from OFr 'trover' modern 'trouver' to find,
which
> > > gives the word 'trove' as in 'treasure-trove'. Instances of the
> > > consonantal change from 'v' to be 'b' occur in 'troubadour' /
'trouvere'
> > > and other places. This derivation would leave Trubshaw meaning 'a wood
> > > where something was found' - maybe truffles, maybe not!!!
> > >
> > > Just a suggestion.
> > > Cheers
> > > Linda
> > >
> > >
> > > In message
> > > <[log in to unmask]>,
> > > Horovitz David <[log in to unmask]> writes
> > > >Trubshaw (Trubbeshawe 1231, Trubbeshagh 1340, Trobeshawe 1353) is a
> small
> > > >place in north Staffordshire
> > > >
> > > >DES has no mention of this widespread surname.
> > > >
> > > >Any thoughts on the first element, please?
> > > >
> > > >David Horovitz
> > > >
>
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