Trouble < Old French torble < Latin turbulus doesn't work either, so it's
back to the etymological dictionaries.

John Insley
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From: John Briggs <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2002 6:24 PM
Subject: Re: [ESL] Trubshaw


> The word 'truffle' itself doesn't seem to be particularly early in
English.
> I'm not too happy about Occitan being spoken in north Staffordshire!  I
> think Richard Coates is right: "trouble" seems the most likely!
>
> John Briggs
>
> Linda Corrigan wrote:
>
>
> > The Penguin Dictionary of Surnames, suggests 'truffle wood' although it
> > also says that the first instance of 'trub' meaning truffle is late -
> > 1668, and I can't find a reference for this.
> >
> > I just wonder if it's from OFr 'trover' modern 'trouver' to find, which
> > gives the word 'trove' as in 'treasure-trove'. Instances of the
> > consonantal change from 'v' to be 'b' occur in 'troubadour' / 'trouvere'
> > and other places. This derivation would leave Trubshaw meaning 'a wood
> > where something was found' - maybe truffles, maybe not!!!
> >
> > Just a suggestion.
> > Cheers
> > Linda
> >
> >
> > In message
> > <[log in to unmask]>,
> > Horovitz David <[log in to unmask]> writes
> > >Trubshaw (Trubbeshawe 1231, Trubbeshagh 1340, Trobeshawe 1353) is a
small
> > >place in north Staffordshire
> > >
> > >DES has no mention of this widespread surname.
> > >
> > >Any thoughts on the first element, please?
> > >
> > >David Horovitz
> > >