Very interesting discussion. I gather one important issue is that economic
structures require different types of abilities and disabled/marinalise
people with other types of abilities/impairments. In this process,
industrialisation, marginalised and disabled people with physical
impairments because of the assemble production process /mining and farming
activities restructured by capitalist economies. Today the first world is
becoming more and more driven by a service led economy/hegemonic global
class. The new requirements of the economic system is freeing labour surplus
and marginalising others (the computer era does not require the some
membersof the labour force to be bodily unimpaired). However some people
with impairments will have more advantage that others because the associated
cost to their participation in the new economy. this may explain the
existence of difference in treatment/approaches to different impairements.
AV
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From: "Mariab" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 1:38 PM
Subject: Re: Vocabulary question: Is there a word for this?
> Indeed the discourse of more or less discrimination can be divisive.
> However, unfortunately, common within the frame of reference that most of
us
> have been educated and "lived /survived in." Few have the opportunity
time
> to unlearn that which we have been taught. This separatist culture teaches
> us that the same is good different is bad or inferior.
>
> A different global unifying culture that would promote diversity would
allow
> for differences of needs and a way to measure all unmet needs without
> greater or less. It is my hope/illusion that our community can disseminate
> this teaching best.
> "Our different impairment(s) allows for equal discrimination." For
example
> denying a ramp will be as discriminatory to someone using a wheelchair,
> crutches etc., "as" not having books on tape is to blind person, not
having
> ASL (ex) interpreter to Deaf etc. What good would it be if the government
> was to give only wheelchairs/white cane to all people with impairments?
>
> One last point, we did not create hierarchy in the community it was
created
> from outside. We can only be responsible for maintaining it unless we
choose
> to challenge ourselves to eliminate it.
>
> Maria
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sarah Supple" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 5:24 AM
> Subject: Re: Vocabulary question: Is there a word for this?
>
>
> > Hi, I am not sure if I feel right talking about who is more
discriminated
> > against according to type of disability. I agree that some people will
be
> > more restricted in our society, according to how poorly their daily
needs
> > are catered for, but I'm not sure if that's the same as being more
> > discriminated against. I am partially blind and have very different
> barriers
> > to conquer than someone who uses a wheelchair, I'm not sure if I would
say
> > I'm more or less discriminated against - it's just different. Regards,
> > Sarah Supple.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Chris Benson" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 9:09 AM
> > Subject: Re: Vocabulary question: Is there a word for this?
> >
> >
> > Hi Claire,
> >
> > I don't often respond to discussions on the list just read them but I
have
> > to agree with Keith.
> >
> > As someone involved in brining legal cases on Disability Issues for
> disabled
> > individuals it is usually the people with greater or more severe
> impairments
> > that experience more oppression / discrimination.
> >
> > Previously having supported people with learning difficulties in the
civil
> > rights movement and as a PA it is clear that individuals with severe
> > learning difficulties and physical impairments experience the most
> > discrimination.
> >
> > There is no point arguing for a job if you cannot get support to get out
> of
> > bed, or if the local authority will not provide you with a home (never
> mind
> > an accessible one), or you get sent to a day centre where you have no
say
> > over the staff or activities that go on. Finally the people who you
spend
> > all your time with and could assist you in enforcing your rights have no
> > motivation to do so as it is in their interest to keep you disempowered.
> >
> > Such individuals are unlikely, as a result of the amount of
discrimination
> > they experience, to have the option to contribute to this debate.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Claire Wickham [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: 19 November 2002 20:14
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: Vocabulary question: Is there a word for this?
> >
> >
> > Keith,
> >
> > I would have imagined that this would depend on how you define degree of
> > impairment (and how you measure discrimination)...so I'm not sure this
> > statement gets you anywhere? IMO some impairments are much more
acceptable
> > than others but I am not convinced that there is a correlation between
> > degree and discrimination. For example, unemployment figures for
visually
> > impaired people are strikingly high (75%). This suggests a high level of
> > discrimination but would you wish to classify visual impairment as at
the
> > top end of degree of impairment? And how would your scale work?
> >
> > ATB
> >
> > Claire
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: The Disability-Research Discussion List
> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of keith armstrong
> > Sent: 18 November 2002 23:56
> > To:
> > Subject: Re: Vocabulary question: Is there a word for this?
> >
> >
> > So often here in the UK degree of impairment =
> > degree of disability discrimination.
> >
> >
> >
> > Keith
> > --
> > War makes people ill.
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