I agree with this point. I have just been speaking to a friend who has just
come back from visiting her family who live on the boarder between Iraq and
Iran. She says that the bombing has already started which just goes to show
that all the hype on the TV about discussing invading and bombing is crap
as they have already started. Another example of how decisions are made
above and beyond us, and unless the media are fed it in order to spoon feed
us then we do not know. Sarah.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andy Velarde" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 10:53 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: iCan! Communique': Remembering Sept. 11
> Very interesting thoughts. War can be analysed from different
perspectives:
> economics, psychology, law, etc. Following your point of view I would add
> that comon people are manipoulated by the few who control power (generate
> public opionion, are in decision making positions, etc in the private and
> public sectors),and who would have some type of benefit from the
> economic/political outcome of the war, or whose aspirations and emotions
are
> governed by a sadistic plesure of killing/subjugating/other human beings.
My
> reading of history is that only a further democratisation of societies
could
> really control the sadistic human tendency of the few. Good people need to
> be involved in the running of the 'Polis' (society). I agree that it is
very
> little one person can do to stop the war, but we need to try by generating
> debate. The first the second, ww, the vietnam, corean wars were not
> innevitable. Why we couldn't stop it? we really need to answer this
question
> because the world may not have another chance. Individuals need to
> participate, generate, organise debate, it is the only way. Even if our
own
> opinion does not prevail in the first place. A participatory society is
the
> best cure to the totalitarian temptation of the few and the inevitable
> future of our only world. Peace really needs a chance,AV
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ColRevs" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 10:34 PM
> Subject: Re: Fw: iCan! Communique': Remembering Sept. 11
>
>
> Keith
>
> There are many 'victims' of war and many war veterans are disabled people.
> After, they have given their life's to their Country,(UK and USA), then
they
> are left with their 'scars' of war and ignored by the national
governments.
>
> Remember, the many 'victims of Vietnam and other recent wars e.g Gulf and
> Falklands and how many soldiers ended up being physically and mentally
> impaired. 'Gulf-War Syndrome ?
>
> There are many disabled veterans of 'wars' who are left to rot on the
> streets by their governments they fought for.
>
> War Stinks... peace in the world...but I'm a idealist and dreamer... I
don't
> think I will ever experience a peaceful world in my lifetime.
>
> 9/11: I remember all the 'victims' of war around the world.
>
> Regards
>
> Col R
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "keith armstrong" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 8:35 PM
> Subject: Re: Fw: iCan! Communique': Remembering Sept. 11
>
>
> > Should we also have a day for the disabled Afghans (who were killed in
the
> bombings) and the Afghan soldiers who were murdered (deliberately
suffocated
> in container trucks) after they had surrendered?
> >
> > No person from any country is any more important than another person
from
> another country.
> >
> > Keith
> >
> > War makes good people ill.
> > --
> > War makes people ill.
>
>
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