Nicely put, Lilith.
Timothy Lillie, PhD
Dept. of Curricular & Instructional Studies
The University of Akron
Akron OH 44325-4205
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LILITH Finkler [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 4:05 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: 2003 logo
>
>
> Hi there, I sent a message, but I think that it went to the individual
> rather than to the list (oops-my apologies to the recipient!)
> In any case,
> my point was that the linguistic differences might be
> reflective more of
> geography, rather than political orientation. I am very much
> a social model
> proponent. I insist in all my writing that I am a person with
> a dis/ability.
> I use the backslash as a gramatical indicator that the
> dis/ability itself is
> not dis/abling, but rather a function of the society in which I live.
> Further, the dis/ability is some, but not all, of who I am.
> It is real,
> based in my experience, but should not be used as a category
> by which to
> oppress me. Here in Canada, many of us with dis/abilities
> have fought to
> have the language changed from "disabled" to "with a dis/ability." It
> appears that in the U.K., it is the reverse. Rather than
> argue about which
> version is the more "correct", it might be wiser to simply
> acknowledge that
> social and geographic locations have both political and linguistic
> implications. Lilith
>
>
>
> >From: Simon Stevens <[log in to unmask]>
> >Reply-To: Simon Stevens <[log in to unmask]>
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: 2003 logo
> >Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 20:18:03 +0100
> >
> >Don't you teach the social model? If you did, it would be disabled
> >people without any doubt or people with impairments.
> >
> >--
> >
> >Simon Stevens
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> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: The Disability-Research Discussion List
> >[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
> Lillie,Timothy
> >H
> >Sent: 17 July 2002 20:13
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: 2003 logo
> >
> >It's curious. I teach special education and disability
> studies in the
> >US and am often asked by students and others who want to be
> sensitive to
> >these issues: "What is the correct form of address? Is it 'disabled
> >person' or is it 'person with a disability'?"
> >
> >I tell them: "Yes."
> >
> >TL
> >
> >Timothy Lillie, PhD
> >Dept. of Curricular & Instructional Studies
> >The University of Akron
> >Akron OH 44325-4205
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Claire Wickham [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 2:55 PM
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: Re: 2003 logo
> > >
> > >
> > > Because the word "disabled" is being reclaimed and is an
> > > affirmation of
> > > pride.
> > >
> > > Because I am not a person carrying around my "disability" as an
> > > afterthought.
> > >
> > > Because disabled people are disadvantaged by society's
> > > attitudes, prejudices
> > > and procedures and "disabled person" is thus akin to
> oppressed person,
> > > disadvataged person....we do not say "person with
> > > oppression", "person with
> > > disadvatge", "person with blackness".
> > >
> > > Becasue "person with a disability" suggests that the locus of
> > > responsibility
> > > is the individual, when it is society that creates the
> disadvantage.
> > >
> > > Because "people with disabilities" suggests that we are
> divided by our
> > > different impairments and "disabled people" units us.
> > >
> > > Claire
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: The Disability-Research Discussion List
> > > [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of
> Peter Bailey
> > > Sent: 17 July 2002 19:38
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: Re: 2003 logo
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear Mary
> > > Great question - I am keen to hear the answers, but just to
> > > be clear I agree
> > > with the language of 'disabled person', all to do with the
> > > social model of
> > > disability.
> > >
> > > Best wishes
> > > Peter Bailey
> > > 01372 275147 (T&F)
> > > 07803 182656 (M)
> > > 70 Chaffers Mead
> > > Ashtead
> > > Surrey KT21 1NH
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Mary Ennis
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 3:39 PM
> > > Subject: Re: 2003 logo
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Mark,
> > >
> > > Here in Canada, the consumer movement has worked long and
> > > hard to change
> > > the
> > > language, to put the individual first and foremost instead
> > > of following a
> > > label. I'm really curious as to the reasoning behind your
> > > request for a
> > > name
> > > change to the European Year?
> > >
> > > Mary
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Mark Priestley" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 1:05 PM
> > > Subject: 2003 logo
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi
> > > >
> > > > Just to let you know that I managed to persuade the
> > > people at European
> > > Year
> > > > of 'People with Disabilities' to produce an alternative
> > > UK friendly logo
> > > > titled 'European Year of Disabled People'.
> > > >
> > > > They haven't put it on their web site yet, but they sent
> > > me one when I
> > > asked
> > > > for it.
> > > >
> > > > EYPD Team
> > > > EurO&M
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> > > >
> > > > http://www.eypd2003.org/eypd/eypd/logo/logo_2.html
> > > >
> > > > Best Wishes
> > > >
> > > > Mark Priestley
> > > > Centre for Disability Studies
> > > > University of Leeds
> > > > LEEDS
> > > > LS2 9JT
> > > > UK
> > > >
> > > > tel: +44 113 343 4417
> > > > fax: +44 113 343 4415
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