All right. I confess that I see little distinction between the two, from a pragmatic (day-to-day) perspective. The issue for me is not what word is used for shorthand purposes but what happens in the lives of people. However, I simply wanted to point out that someone who is not in the field, but wishes to be respectful of individuals with disabilities (or disabled individuals, if you will) is in a Catch-22 situation. They are bound to offend someone, somewhere. Those still believing in person-first language (arguably due to the effects of the social model) are offended by "disabled people" which seems to some to locate the disability within the individual rather than as a social construction.
And vice-versa.
Timothy Lillie, PhD
Dept. of Curricular & Instructional Studies
The University of Akron
Akron OH 44325-4205
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> The difference in language is part of a dimension that
> reflect group identity development. The historically
> majority used "disabled person" in a sometimes subtle often
> overt denigrating or overt fashion. Person with language
> evolved to address that tone and many advocates have adopted
> the once pejorative terms as their own "The Disabled" This
> happened with race in the US during the 50's and 60's. It
> is akin to big D little d Deaf. in the Context of Deaf
> Culture it is a capitol D in the context of impairment it is
> a lower case d.
>
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> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 3:13 PM
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> It's curious. I teach special education and disability
> studies in the US and am often asked by students and others
> who want to be sensitive to these issues: "What is the
> correct form of address? Is it 'disabled person' or is it
> 'person with a disability'?"
>
> I tell them: "Yes."
>
> TL
>
> Timothy Lillie, PhD
> Dept. of Curricular & Instructional Studies
> The University of Akron
> Akron OH 44325-4205
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Claire Wickham
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 2:55 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: 2003 logo
> >
> >
> > Because the word "disabled" is being reclaimed and is an
> > affirmation of
> > pride.
> >
> > Because I am not a person carrying around my "disability"
> as an
> > afterthought.
> >
> > Because disabled people are disadvantaged by society's
> > attitudes, prejudices
> > and procedures and "disabled person" is thus akin to
> oppressed person,
> > disadvataged person....we do not say "person with
> > oppression", "person with
> > disadvatge", "person with blackness".
> >
> > Becasue "person with a disability" suggests that the locus
> of
> > responsibility
> > is the individual, when it is society that creates the
> disadvantage.
> >
> > Because "people with disabilities" suggests that we are
> divided by our
> > different impairments and "disabled people" units us.
> >
> > Claire
> >
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> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of
> Peter Bailey
> > Sent: 17 July 2002 19:38
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: 2003 logo
> >
> >
> > Dear Mary
> > Great question - I am keen to hear the answers, but just
> to
> > be clear I agree
> > with the language of 'disabled person', all to do with the
>
> > social model of
> > disability.
> >
> > Best wishes
> > Peter Bailey
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> > From: Mary Ennis
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 3:39 PM
> > Subject: Re: 2003 logo
> >
> >
> > Hi Mark,
> >
> > Here in Canada, the consumer movement has worked long
> and
> > hard to change
> > the
> > language, to put the individual first and foremost
> instead
> > of following a
> > label. I'm really curious as to the reasoning behind
> your
> > request for a
> > name
> > change to the European Year?
> >
> > Mary
> >
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> > Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 1:05 PM
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> >
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > Just to let you know that I managed to persuade the
> > people at European
> > Year
> > > of 'People with Disabilities' to produce an
> alternative
> > UK friendly logo
> > > titled 'European Year of Disabled People'.
> > >
> > > They haven't put it on their web site yet, but they
> sent
> > me one when I
> > asked
> > > for it.
> > >
> > > EYPD Team
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> > > http://www.eypd2003.org/eypd/eypd/logo/logo_2.html
> > >
> > > Best Wishes
> > >
> > > Mark Priestley
> > > Centre for Disability Studies
> > > University of Leeds
> > > LEEDS
> > > LS2 9JT
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> > >
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