With respect, the social model can encompass either term. What I was trying to point out is that the shibboleth of which comes first is not worth (in my view) much time or effort; what counts is what happens in the lives of people with disabilities.
Timothy Lillie, PhD
Dept. of Curricular & Instructional Studies
The University of Akron
Akron OH 44325-4205
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> From: Simon Stevens [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
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> Subject: Re: 2003 logo
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> Don't you teach the social model? If you did, it would be disabled
> people without any doubt or people with impairments.
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> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
> Lillie,Timothy
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> Sent: 17 July 2002 20:13
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> Subject: Re: 2003 logo
>
> It's curious. I teach special education and disability studies in the
> US and am often asked by students and others who want to be
> sensitive to
> these issues: "What is the correct form of address? Is it 'disabled
> person' or is it 'person with a disability'?"
>
> I tell them: "Yes."
>
> TL
>
> Timothy Lillie, PhD
> Dept. of Curricular & Instructional Studies
> The University of Akron
> Akron OH 44325-4205
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Claire Wickham [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 2:55 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: 2003 logo
> >
> >
> > Because the word "disabled" is being reclaimed and is an
> > affirmation of
> > pride.
> >
> > Because I am not a person carrying around my "disability" as an
> > afterthought.
> >
> > Because disabled people are disadvantaged by society's
> > attitudes, prejudices
> > and procedures and "disabled person" is thus akin to
> oppressed person,
> > disadvataged person....we do not say "person with
> > oppression", "person with
> > disadvatge", "person with blackness".
> >
> > Becasue "person with a disability" suggests that the locus of
> > responsibility
> > is the individual, when it is society that creates the disadvantage.
> >
> > Because "people with disabilities" suggests that we are
> divided by our
> > different impairments and "disabled people" units us.
> >
> > Claire
> >
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> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Peter Bailey
> > Sent: 17 July 2002 19:38
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: 2003 logo
> >
> >
> > Dear Mary
> > Great question - I am keen to hear the answers, but just to
> > be clear I agree
> > with the language of 'disabled person', all to do with the
> > social model of
> > disability.
> >
> > Best wishes
> > Peter Bailey
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> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Mary Ennis
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 3:39 PM
> > Subject: Re: 2003 logo
> >
> >
> > Hi Mark,
> >
> > Here in Canada, the consumer movement has worked long and
> > hard to change
> > the
> > language, to put the individual first and foremost instead
> > of following a
> > label. I'm really curious as to the reasoning behind your
> > request for a
> > name
> > change to the European Year?
> >
> > Mary
> >
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> > From: "Mark Priestley" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 1:05 PM
> > Subject: 2003 logo
> >
> >
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > Just to let you know that I managed to persuade the
> > people at European
> > Year
> > > of 'People with Disabilities' to produce an alternative
> > UK friendly logo
> > > titled 'European Year of Disabled People'.
> > >
> > > They haven't put it on their web site yet, but they sent
> > me one when I
> > asked
> > > for it.
> > >
> > > EYPD Team
> > > EurO&M
> > > 22 rue de la Putterie
> > > B - 1000 Brussels
> > > mailto:[log in to unmask]
> > >
> > > http://www.eypd2003.org/eypd/eypd/logo/logo_2.html
> > >
> > > Best Wishes
> > >
> > > Mark Priestley
> > > Centre for Disability Studies
> > > University of Leeds
> > > LEEDS
> > > LS2 9JT
> > > UK
> > >
> > > tel: +44 113 343 4417
> > > fax: +44 113 343 4415
> > > e-mail: [log in to unmask]
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