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Re: Mental health surviours becoming professionals?

From:

Maria B <[log in to unmask]>

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Maria B <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Sat, 15 Jun 2002 21:08:18 -0400

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The experience of " integrating/meshing into the very system that oppress is
a repeated experience by all member's of minority groups one begin with good
initiations, but as a survival tactic, to be accepted respected by
colleagues one "melts" into it often without knowing. That is why
integration is not a valuable goal for change. Unless there is a large
enough group doing it at the same time. This appears to be a repeated
experience by women, members of other minority etc. that try to change the
very system that stand as a barrier for change, I suspect that in the
psychiatric milieu in particular, people / workers have restrictive rules
particularly with regard to "patient and medication"

Maria

----- Original Message -----
From: "LILITH Finkler" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2002 12:27 AM
Subject: Re: Mental health surviours becoming professionals?


> I am the "respected colleague" to whom Philip refers in his earlier
inquiry.
> I would like to elaborate upon my remarks simply for the purposes of
> clarification. [As a caveat, I must emphasize that I live in Canada and
> hence, the majority of my experiences and remarks pertain to Canada.] I
> commented specifically about psychiatric survivors becoming psychiatric
> nurses. The psychiatric survivor movement has taken a number of political
> positions that would make it difficult (if not impossible) for survivors
in
> good conscience to perform what are essential duties for psychiatric
nurses.
> For example, the survivor movement has taken a stand against forced
> treatment but nurses on psychiatric wards forcibly drug patients every
day.
> Psychiatric survivor activists argue against the use of chemical and
> physical use of restaint but nurses restrain patients every day.
Psychiatric
> survivors demand fully informed consent but nurses routinely impose
> medications upon patients. Forced drugging, restaint and administration of
> drugs without informed consent, are in my mind, human rights violations.
Why
> would a psychiatric survivor who had endured such experiences wish to
impose
> them on others who are equally or more vulnerable than they once were? It
> seems to me that they would simply become part of the very system that
once
> oppressed them.
>
> I know many psychiatric survivors who became nurses in hopes of changing
the
> psychiatric system. Significantly, most have left psychiatric nursing
> because their attempts to humanize their work environment was
unsuccessful.
> Some practice nursing, but not on psychiatric wards, others made
transitions
> to other medical related fields and some left their work entirely. I
suspect
> that qualitative research in this area would yield rich data. I also
suspect
> that notions of social change would become much more complex. Placing
> psychiatric survivors in the role of psychiatric nurses does NOT in and of
> itself change values associated with medical model approaches to emotional
> distress. Lilith
>
>
>
>
> Philip Scullion <[log in to unmask]>
> >Reply-To: Philip Scullion <[log in to unmask]>
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Mental health surviours becoming professionals?
> >Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 09:59:00 +0100
> >
> >Dear Colleagues
> >
> >Would any care to explore this issue with me?
> >At last weeks SDS conference in Oakland I discussed
> >the issue of people with mental health problems /
> >experience moving on to joining one of the health care
> >professions e.g. Psychiatric nursing.
> >
> >In UK the Department of Health are likely to publish a
> >positive statement encouraging this on the grounds of
> >equal opportunity in employment and the positive
> >contribution such experiences may bring to a role as a
> >health professional.
> >
> >The RCN (London 3rd July) conference, in a few weeks
> >will be examining the role of health professionals in
> >the disability rights agenda- in essence I will argue
> >that one way of being with disable people on this
> >agenda is to open the way for them to become health
> >professionals.
> >
> >One respected colleague at the SDS however was fairly
> >adamant that the effect of a mental health survivor
> >becoming a psychiatric nurse for instance would be for
> >them to simply take on an oppressive role seen as
> >characteristic of the so-called 'helping profession'
> >as whole.
> >
> >View, experiences and research welcome.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >=====
> >Philip Scullion
> >Senior Lecturer
> >Health and Social Sciences
> >Coventry University
> >UK
> >
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