The notion that Fulke Greville is the "overseer of print" of the 1590
Arcadia is advanced by W.W. Greg, in his book on pastoral literature
(Pastoral Poetry and Pastoral Drama?).  Greg draws the inference from a
dedication of some work to Greville, which credits Greville with having
brought Philip Sidney's works into print.  I believe Victor's critical
introduction to his edition of the New Arcadia cites Greg and cites the same
source, as well.  It's worth checking that dedication.  The other piece of
evidence is Greville's letter to Francis Walsingham shortly after Philip
Sidney's death, which advocates suppressing a pirated edition of what we now
take to be the Old Arcadia because it is "so common"; that letter intimates
that Greville has a more up-to-date manuscript which most scholars have
taken to be the New Arcadia.  Michael Brennan's article "WIlliam Ponsonby,
Elizabethan Stationer," in a bibliographic journal like _The Library_, also
touches on this issue.  William Ringler's edition of Sidney's poetry
discusses all this in some depth, as does Jean Robertson's textual
introduction to the Old Arcadia.  Wendy Wall's _The Imprint of Gender_
touches on the issue, as well, though it's mostly concerned with the 1593
edition.  I htink I mentioned earlier Margaret Hannay's article in Sidney
Journal 18.  K.T. Rowe's 1939 article in MLA is a pretty good commentary on
who did what to the 1590 and 1593 edition, and William Godshalk revisits the
topic in his 1964 article, as does Joan Rees.  Sorry my references are so
incomplete, but I hope they give you a start.  Bill, you gonna comment?


As for casting Mary Wroth, I vote for Parker Posey ( see _House of Yes_,
replete with its own incestuous affair in which Parker Posey dresses as
Jackie-O--then you'll have to agree with me!).  And I think no one but Alan
Rickman can do justice to the line "O wearisome condition of humanity," so
I'll plump for him as Fulke Greville.  Matt Steggle, we're waiting for you
to put up the website for the movie.  Liv Tyler for Penelope Devereaux?

cheers,
joel davis


>From: Thomas P Roche <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: Sidney-Spenser Discussion List <[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: New and Old Arcadia
>Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 14:59:02 -0500
>
>Dear Daniel Knauss, Many thanks for sending in those correctives.  The
>Feuillerat, all four volumes ,came out in 1912, as you suggest.  I will
>try to correct my pages.  Congratulations to Katherine Duncan-Jones for
>remembering her reading of that 1907 Athenaeum article.  I do not know
>where Maurice got his information about Greville's work on the 1590, but
>it is a nice myth.  We all want stars to appear in our plays.  Imagine
>the confrontation between Fulke Greville (Branagh) and the Countess
>(Judi Dench)!  Until we have an Arcadia census, and a collation of all
>copies and editions, it would be foolish to say that SWA or even SBRB
>appeared for the first time.  Again thanks. tpr
>
>Daniel Knauss wrote:
>
> >  Dear Professor Roche-- Thanks very much for sending "Forms of
> > Sidney's Arcadia" to the list. Some years ago I tried to organize some
> > notes on this topic simply by going through the introductions to the
> > Evans and Duncan-Jones editions. As I compared my notes with your NEH
> > seminar student's notes, I found a few contradictory points: First,
> > Duncan-Jones cites a 1907 Athenaeum article marking the rediscovery of
> > the Old Arcadia; she gives 1926 as year of Feuillerat's first edition
> > of it. Evans does not mention the discovery date but puts the first
> > Feuillerat edition at 1912. "Forms of Sidney's Arcadia" gives 1913 as
> > the year in which the Old Arcadia was rediscovered and 1926 as the
> > year of the first Feuillerat edition. I'm guessing that Duncan-Jones
> > is probably right about the discovery date. For Feuillerat's first
> > edition of The Complete Works, its volumes were published from 1912 to
> > 1926. If the 4th volume was the last one published (it contains the
> > OA) then 1926 is probably the correct year. Evans' introduction
> > states, "...Sir William Alexander wrote a bridging passage...which
> > appeared in the fifth edition of 1621..." (12-13). "Forms of Sidney's
> > Arcadia" shows that this fifth edition is actually the seventh
> > printing and SWA's emendation appears in *some* of the 1613 copies
> > printed for Waterson. Evans also states emphatically that Greville
> > supervised the 1590 edition, perhaps with help from Florio. "Forms of
> > Sidney's Arcadia" states that "who actually arranged for this edition
> > is still uncertain." The observations may be old news to Sidney
> > scholars, but I would appreciate any clarification list members can
> > provide. Dan
> > Knauss ====================================================
> > Daniel Knauss - Department of English - Marquette University
> > [log in to unmask] - http://home.earthlink.net/~faerspel
> > ==================================================== On Tue, 5 Mar
> > 2002 19:12:50 -0200 "Thomas P. Roche" <[log in to unmask]> writes:
> > > Dear sidspens, here is the promised  OA and NA pages that I promised
> >
> > > to
> > > Andrew Fleck. I am embarrassed that I cannot recall which of my
> > > NEHers
> > > did it, but should s/he see it in this format, please claim praise.
> > > I
> > > have checked it against the PUL holdings and have found it to be
> > > true.
> > > If any of you should find errors of any sort, please reply, and I
> > > will
> > > fix it up.  I hope it will be of some use. tpr




Joel B. Davis
Visiting Assistant Professor
Department of English
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Oklahoma State University
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