I have just discovered artefact scatter (a monument type) that will do for now.
Thank you
David Evans
Environment and Conservation
>>> [log in to unmask] 06/03/2002 12:23:43 >>>
david I think Matthew is correct here we have been looking into this issue
among the Trust user base.
Our standard came out as
if you have a find spot
in the exegesis SMR
record the Monument record type as "find spot"
the site type as find spot (with a period if possible)
then attach 1 or many finds records to the monument record -
which actually works fine.
I agree the Finds form is not great it does need some thought being put to
it. Maybe it should allow for multiple object and material types.??
indeed Pottery is a material your object is a "amphora" or "jug" etc
your monument record is a "find spot"
I think that is the best data standard for something like that ... it allows
you to see your find spots and what that find spot consists of.
cheers
jason
>>> David Evans <[log in to unmask]> 6/March/2002
11:56am >>>
This hardly helps, what we need is some way of recording finds of
ceramic material either individually or in groups which are in effects
sites. Recording them as finds spots with "pot" as the find type is not
satisfactory.
Thank you
David Evans
Environment and Conservation
>>> [log in to unmask] 06/03/2002 11:40:57 >>>
Dear Sarah,
"Pottery" is excluded from the mda thesaurus because it is a material, not
an object type. It will always be a pottery "something". If it is
identifiable as a fragment from a vessel then use the term "vessel" or the
specific type where known. If the type of object is unknown then use
the
term "unidentified object". In both cases record the material as "ceramic".
The group has also included the term "sherd" (with "rim sherd", "body
sherd"
and "base sherd" as narrower terms). It has also added the terms "lip",
"spout" and "handle". These should be double indexed as appropriate
Best wishes,
Matthew
Dr Matthew Stiff
Data Services Unit Manager
National Monuments Record Centre
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-----Original Message-----
From: Sarah Poppy [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 05 March 2002 19:50
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Recording pottery in HBSMR
Dear all,
What is the consensus on how SMRs record pottery finds in HBSMR? I
know that
the MDA object thesaurus lacks a generic "pottery" term, and that
indexing
to vessel form and function would be possible where information and
time
existed, but what do people do otherwise as a workable solution? I
recall
in Hampshire we had a candidate term but such a term has obviously not
made
its way into the National thesaurus.
Sarah
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