Marie,
I don't think so if it is about the the social model the questions has to
be "If there would be a pill OTHERS could take which would abolish their
able-ist sexist racist... behavior would you want them to take it.
Here way of using the term disability it is actually impairment, disease,
defect what she means. But even if you ask the question with that
understanding it makes no sense. Not only will some say Yes (e.g. many
amputies who lost their limbs) and many No (e.g. many thalidomiders who
are born without limbs) (and the reason for saying Yes often is based on
internalized oppression and internalizing the tyranny concept of normalcy)
but if you ask a person fitting the 'norm' whether he would say yes if the
pill would give him a cometetive edge over others (like higher IQ more
endurance less prone to illness faster legs more muscle....) some would
say Yes and some would say No.
So the question in itself is quite useless and I don't think actually is a
good way to look at medical versus social model
Cheers
Gregor
On Fri, 25 Jan 2002, Maria Barile wrote:
>
> We need to notice that the question is about "disability" and the social
> model. The writer is not asking about impairments. If we are to engage in
> that thought pattern, one would need to ask why would I have to take the
> pill? Since in the social model terminology disability refers to
> environmental barrier. Should the question not be "if there was a magic
> wand to make poverty, inequity, architectural barriers, etc., disappear
> would you use it? But what would such a society be like? How would be
> people in position of power survive?
> Maria
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ron Amundson" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 5:35 AM
> Subject: Re: request for cite (fwd)
>
>
> > Sorry, David, but I'm not writing back to this person.
> >
> > I really think this question is bogus, and answering it is falling into a
> > trap. What the hell does "take away your disability" mean? It certainly
> > cannot mean the same to us as it means to the person asking the question!
> > Whatever answer you give (including the magic answer "no") it _has to_ be
> > misinterpreted.
> >
> > To answer "no" just to get into the discussion is futile. The "no" answer
> > just marks you as some kind of martyr or loony, and the rest of the
> > conversation has to do with what other peculiar responses the questioner
> can
> > goad you into making. ("Would you want your daughter to marry one ...?")
> >
> > I'd ask the questioner "If you could take a pill that made you think
> harder,
> > would you take it?"
> >
> > Ron
> >
> > Ron Amundson
> > University of Hawaii at Hilo
> > Hilo, HI 96720
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> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "David Pfeiffer" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 2:23 PM
> > Subject: request for cite (fwd)
> >
> >
> > > Please respond to the person who sent the message and not to me. Thanks.
> >
> > Sorry.
> >
> > > a quick question for you: i need a cite for an article that
> > > discusses/poses the common question, "if there were a pill to take away
> > > your disability, would you take it?" for which, of course, the common
> > > answer is NO, to start the conversation of social model vs. medical
> > > model, etc.
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