K Fearon <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> with each new version. The reason I downloaded Opera rather than an old
> version of NN or IE is that you can get all the functionality of a
> well-designed modern browser but you can choose to download it without
> javascript so you don't end up with a very large program taking up half
> your memory.
no, you can download it without java. javascript is something
completely different and still works in the java-less version. but you
can disable that too, at least in opera 6
although i'm a mozilla user i absolutely love opera and think it's the
best browser for user control. with one click you can switch to
your own stylesheet that you can customize from an easy to use
interface without having to know anything about stylesheets.
> functionally redundant in 18 months - 2 years? Would you find it
> acceptable if your fridge or tv (which probably cost less) needed to be
> replaced every 3 years? It seems like a huge waste of resources to me.
fridge technology is not moving on as quickly as computer
technology. it also has to be said that the standards that are being
pushed so much at the moment have been around for years. the
commercial side of the development, however, decided to totally
ignore them all this time until the version 6 browsers. (gross over-
generalization but you know what i mean)
> Maybe some of this problem could be resolved by using more
efficient
> systems, which would in turn ensure that they remained accessible to those
> users with less up to date machines. I don't know.
if you code according to standards, any technology can access
your information. some might not be able to interpret your
presentational instructions (the stylesheet) but the information will
be accessible on the lowest of technologies. that, at least, is the
'standards philosophy'.
> > So how do you see ourselves moved to a richer, more robust, more
> > accessible Web?
it's not richer, it's slimmer. take the 'richness' out into stylesheets.
> Perhaps one way would be to have a slimline browser
lynx? amaya? ehm, i'm sure there's more...
>and allow people to
> pick and choose the functions that were necessary to them.
opera
>This in turn
> means that people need to think about the design of their pages and not
> assume eg that everyone has javascript.
that's exactly what the w3c accessibility guidelines and standards
are about
>Or maybe there's some way of
> incorporating this new technology into a browser that isn't hugely
> bloated, then persuading HEs to use that instead of either NN or IE.
opera opera opera ;)
iris
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