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Subject:

Minutes of the 33rd GridPP Project Management Board

From:

Tony Doyle <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Tony Doyle <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Thu, 23 May 2002 12:25:15 +0100

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TEXT/PLAIN (21 lines) , 020520.txt (1 lines)

Dear All,

     Please find attached the weekly GridPP Project Management
Board Meeting minutes. The latest minutes can be found each week in:

http://www.gridpp.ac.uk/pmb/minutes/this-week.txt

(as well as being listed with other minutes e.g. 020520.txt).

            Cheers, Tony
________________________________________________________________________
Tony Doyle, GridPP Project Leader            Telephone: +44-141-330 5899
Rm 482, Kelvin Building                        Telefax: +44-141-330 5881
Dept of Physics and Astronomy           EMail: [log in to unmask]
University of Glasgow             Web: http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/~doyle
G12 8QQ, UK                                     Video - IP: 194.36.1.234
________________________________________________________________________





GridPP PMB Minutes 33 - 20th May 2002 ====================================== Present: Tony Doyle, Dave Britton, John Gordon, Robin Middleton, Roger Barlow, Steve Lloyd, Neil Geddes (by phone), Barbara Scott (secretary). The PMB discussed a date for the next CB meeting which (currently) looked likely to be 12th June. Before discussing action points, the PMB discussed three agenda items as follows: FrameworK 6 =========== NG reported on this stating that the intention is to submit and EoI for a large integrated project and that Cern will be taking a leading role. There will be collaboration with national e-science centres, other sciences and industry. This will allow access to funding for infrastructure from the EU. It is hoped that the UK will support it. NG has discussed this with Tony Hey who is very keen on certain aspects of the expression of interest. There is a draft version of the EoI which he will send to everyone. RM asked who would handle the input for regional areas and NG said that he/Tony Hey would do it. Tier-1 and Tier-2 Centres ========================= JG noted we needed to report on Tier-1 with a view to also reporting on UK Tier-2s for the LCG Grid Deployment Board (GDB). RM stated that they were still unclear as to what Tier 2 was and we may end up with something unsuitable. TD agreed, but said that we needed to outline steps necessary to provide the CPUs required by the regional centres by Sep 2004 (at least) including data storage. The current planning (prior to input from SC2) for Sep 2004 is: 1. 1000 CPUs and 0.25 Pbytes data storage at prototype Tier-1 2. 4 * ~(250 CPUs and 0.06 Pbytes data storage) at 4 Tier-2 centres JG said that he would report back on the basis of detailed knowledge of the prototype Tier-1, scaled by a quarter for each of the envisaged Tier-2 centres. Feedback from OC ================ TD noted two major points had been highlighted from the OC meeting. The first was required on the timescale of a month - a "Metrics for Success" document which will be reworked by DB who will define the list and collate information, bearing in mind future ability to "automatically" measure input. It is intended for this to be drafted within a month and will require input from all areas of the PMB. The broad areas considered are: Tony - scale Tony - integration Steve - dissemination Nick - UK physics analyses (LHC) Roger - (other experiments) Robin - DataGrid TonyC - LHC Computing Grid Pete - interoperability John - infrastructure Dave - finances and future funding Inputs have already been received from SL-Metrics for Dissemination (in this case already in the form of ~10 metrics); NB-list of achievements so far (a basis for the metrics); PC-GANTT charts (needed as a starting point for some of the metrics) etc. JG identified various sub-areas under "infrastructure" - LCG experiments input, sites data challenges etc. which should be referred to in the metrics. NEW ACTION 33.1 : ALL to provide input to draft Metrics for Success document. NEW ACTION 33.2 : DB to edit/author Metrics for Success document, based on PMB input. The second major point highlighted was that the OC committee insisted that the PMB appoint a Project Manager to oversee actions taking place and, more importantly, document progress. TD produced a draft management chart showing how the Project Manager would relate to others within the PMB. NEW ACTION 33.3 : TD to define position/role of Project Manager. NEW ACTION 33.4 : TD to appoint Project Manager. Review of Actions ================= (The actions list was based on those potentially outstanding from the 30th PMB meeting) ACTION 17.14 : JCG revise Tier 1/A staffing plans ---ongoing - some work has been done on it. ACTION 17.19 : DB process spreadsheet from PC and use in reporting. ---ongoing - some progress has been made but more work is required. ACTION 20.1 : PC & TD to produce integrated risk assessment document & GANTT charts for OS meeting in April ---done (although OC asked for further info - see 26.2) ACTION 25.1 : RM collate TB Q5 reports and provide summary document ---done ACTION 26.2 : TD to build a document from the GANTT chart in the form of Daron Green's request. ---not done - this is replaced by a meeting which will be arranged with Daron Green to ensure that the requirements are communicated effectively NEW ACTION 33.5 : TD to arrange a meeting with OC Chair (Daron Green). ACTION 26.5 : RM determine estimates of travel expenses in each category based on last year's spends and devise accounting budget codes according to agreed categories for the next FY ---done for Glasgow although discussion took place with regard to creating further budget codes to give a more accurate view of expenditure. The broad-based categories lie under TB, EB, PMB and General (inc. collab. mtgs.) NEW ACTION 33.6 : RM to define and implement budget codes for this FY. ACTION 28.1 : EB & TB to improve their areas of the web (some progress already noted for both - for TB-WP specifics need looking at) ---done, this will now appear under the standing item. RB noted that currently there is only input from LHCb and BaBar on the EB web pages, so there is room for improvement here. ACTION 28.2 : PC/Ben West - add first version of Gantt chart on the web ---done ACTION 28.6 : RM & NB to suggest joint EB/TB dates up to end of 2003 ---done. The dates will be posted on EB/TB meetings page. NEW ACTION 33.7 : RM & NB to post EB/TB dates on EB/TB web pages ACTION 29.2 : SL post NeSC demo news item ---done ACTION 29.3 : TD to e-mail PIs with info on experiments reporting mechanism ---ongoing. ACTION 30.1 : TD to contact TC with info on requirements. ---done ACTION 30.2 : TD to circulate PC draft technical managment document to PMB for input from TD, NB, JG, RM. ---done ACTION 30.3 : TD to contact Guy Ricket to verify form of input to OC. ---done ACTION 30.4 : ALL to prepare draft input documents for OC by May 1st ---done Standing Items ============== SI-1 : ALL : Continual review/improvement/update of the GridPP website Vision Summary uploaded to website. SI-2 : ALL : to provide any new items to SLL (who will pass on to PPARC) Steve plans a News item explaining how to send a job to the Grid. SI-3 : ALL : supply SLL/TD with meeting dates for the web page TB/EB dates to be put on website - CB date to be entered. A.O.C.B. Barbara is pricing accommodation in Edinburgh for the GGF event in July. A note will be sent this week in order to provide a cheaper accommodation option. All PMB/TB/EB (formal) documents will now be numbered. Requests for a document number will be handled by Barbara. Requests should be sent with title, one word identifier and a single line description to Barbara Scott <[log in to unmask]>. ACTIONS AS AT 20TH MAY 2002 =========================== ACTION 17.14 : JCG revise Tier 1/A staffing plans ACTION 17.19 : DB process spreadsheet from PC and use in reporting. ACTION 29.3 : TD to e-mail PIs with info on experiments reporting mechanism ACTION 33.1 : ALL to provide input to draft Metrics for Success document. ACTION 33.2 : DB to edit/author Metrics for Success document, based on PMB input. ACTION 33.3 : TD to define position/role of Project Manager. ACTION 33.4 : TD to appoint Project Manager. ACTION 33.5 : TD to arrange a meeting with OC Chair (Daron Green). ACTION 33.6 : RM to define and implement budget codes for this FY. ACTION 33.7 : RM & NB to post EB/TB dates on EB/TB web pages

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