Dear All,

     Please find attached the weekly GridPP Project Management
Board Meeting minutes. The latest minutes can be found each week in:

http://www.gridpp.ac.uk/pmb/minutes/this-week.txt

(as well as being listed with other minutes e.g. 020128.txt).

            Cheers, Tony
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Tony Doyle, GridPP Project Leader            Telephone: +44-141-330 5899
Rm 482, Kelvin Building                        Telefax: +44-141-330 5881
Dept of Physics and Astronomy           EMail: [log in to unmask]
University of Glasgow             Web: http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/~doyle
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                 GridPP PMB Minutes 19 - 28th January 2002

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Present: Nick Brook (NB), David Britton (DB), Tony Cass (TC) (part of 

the time), Tony Doyle (TD), Steve Lloyd (SL).



Review of Actions

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ACTION 15.2: TD to iterate with Oversight cttee on understanding 

management of the Tier-2 centres.

- Not yet done.



ACTION 15.3: SL will write to the directors of each of the e_Science 

centers on how best to work together.

- Done.



ACTION 16.3 JG to plan Deployment session.

- Done.



ACTION 17.7 TD Examine Gantt chart and identify risks, and consider how 

to manage them.

- Continuing: -TD examined risk assessment documents from SuperJANET-4.

Awaiting GANTT chart from PC.

NEW ACTION 19.1 PC to send latest GANTT chart to TD



ACTION 17.8 NG Find out who gets the money if there's a gap in a post.

- Continuing (Waiting for formal statement from NG.)



ACTION 17.9 SL with Andrew McNab; improve website.

- Continuing (All to send comments/suggestions on how this might be

improved, prior to SL meeting with Andrew).



ACTION 17.10 PC Encourage JIF and SRIF sites to put up Grid software.

TD wants to encourage through experiments as well as technical side. 

NB says it should come from a higher level than EB. 

SL said too early for detailed discussions. 

TD said people should know that e.g. authentication via Grid Certicates 

is how they become part of the GRID.

- On Hold. Action requires discussion with JG and RM (see 17.13 below).



ACTION 17.11 TD Contact Astrogrid project manager and see what we can learn.

- Not done (Tried once.)



ACTION 17.13 JG and RM consider what 'running the grid' means.

- Not Done



ACTION 17.14 JG revise Tier 1/A staffing plans.

NB: Clear from CMS and LHCB that Andrew Samsum is on critical path for 

deployment at RAL. JG needs to address this ASAP. 

TD - posts just awarded but will take time. 

SL - ask JG about temporary redeployment?

- Not Done (Place on the agenda for next week).



ACTION 17.15 RB investigate whether network from RAL to Janet may need 

upgrading and report to PPNCG.

- Done. Doesn't need upgrading.



ACTION 17.16 ALL give Tony ideas for the Cambridge meeting..

- Done



ACTION 17.17 SL Put TB names on the website.

- Done



ACTION 17.18 PC forward spreadsheet to DB (including RAL grid effort and 

some words to explain meanings).

- Not Done.



ACTION 17.19 DB process spreadsheet from PC and use in reporting.

- Not Done (waits for 17.18).



ACTION 17.20 PC through TB: get evaluation criteria to make MDS/R-GMA

decision.

- Not Done.



ACTION 17.22 RM pass on vote of thanks to Dave Newbold.

- Done



ACTION 17.23 PC, RM and NB improve communication of TB and EB with WP8.

- Ongoing. TD - Steve Burke going to give presentation on WP8.



ACTION 17.24 RM invite EBI to give talk at Cambridge.

- Done. (But not available - a slot is free, which will be left open).



ACTION 17.26 ALL get grid certificates and learn how to update the 

GridPP website.

- Ongoing.



ACTION 17.27 RM write document describing how PPARC controls unfunded EU 

effort and send to Fab.

TD - RM had a discussion with Fab who suggested MOU between DG and PPARC

should be proposed by PPARC. RM asked NG to respond. 

Four areas 1) The 15 posts, 2) the 6 CS posts, 3) the e-science students,

4) others, eg ScotGrid funded effort. Waiting for NG reaction.



ACTION 17.28 RB Provide BaBar+Intergrid slides for Robin.

- Not Done.



ACTION 17.30 NB and RB Arrange EB meeting mid March.

- Ongoing. (Late March; iterating on agenda. One issue is scheduling of 

resources, another is accounting of resource use).



ACTION 17.31 NB arrange PMB meeting on 19th March in Bristol.

- Done. (The meeting is fixed for 11am-5pm on the 19th; directions to

follow.)



ACTION 18.1 NB/RB to investigate reporting format for Experiments 

Testbed experiences.

- Ongoing. (NB: Meeting with RB tomorrow about this.)



ACTION 18.2 JG to send SL the current TB names.

- Done.



ACTION 18.3 SLL to get GridPP personnel details on website.

- Not Done.



ACTION 18.4 NB to email JG about RAL disk problems.

- Done. (Exchange of emails. Clear that request have gone in some time 

ago for CMS but response is slow. CMS will get 1.4TB soon. What is 

status of new resources (40 CPUs) bought for test-bed?)



NEW ACTION 19.2 JG give brief report on testbed status at RAL.



ACTION 18.5 TD Investigate making Glasgow MCU available as a backup.

- Ongoing. (First tests were poor. Improving. Tests continue).



Other Matters Arising:

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Web reservations for Cambridge should be set up today.



Dates for the IC meeting are being finalized in week of September 16th. 

London costs are going to be difficult.



PEB meeting: VC every Tuesday; extended meeting ~monthly at CERN. LHC 

budget issues included in agenda. Too soon to know what the other 

issues are. LHC computing project plan timescale is June with 

presentation to CERN Council in July.



NEW ACTION 19.3 TD provide summary report of PEB to PMB



SL: Deadline for CB comments on RAL jobs was Friday. 5 comments: 3 

agreed, one asked for clarification and one didn't answer question. Not 

regarded as quorate so SL will issue a reminder with a new deadline.



NEW ACTION 19.4 SL to issue reminder to CB to respond on RAL posts



Meeting overload. Yes.



Actions 28/01/02

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ACTION 15.2: TD to iterate with Oversight cttee on understanding 

management of the Tier-2 centres.



ACTION 17.7 TD Examine Gantt chart and identify risks, and consider how 

to manage them. TD awaiting information from PC.



ACTION 17.8 NG Find out who gets the money if there's a gap in a post.



ACTION 17.9 SL with Andrew Mcnab; improve website.



ACTION 17.10 PC Encourage JIF and SRIF sites to put up Grid software.



ACTION 17.11 TD Contact Astrogrid project manager and see what we can learn.



ACTION 17.13 JG and RM consider what 'running the grid' means.



ACTION 17.14 JG revise Tier 1/A staffing plans.



ACTION 17.18 PC forward spreadsheet to DB (including RAL grid effort and 

some words to explain meanings).



ACTION 17.19 DB process spreadsheet from PC and use in reporting.



ACTION 17.20 PC through TB: get evaluation criteria to make MDS/R-GMA

decision.



ACTION 17.23 PC, RM and NB improve communication of TB and EB with WP8.



ACTION 17.26 ALL get grid certificates and learn how to update the 

GridPP website.



ACTION 17.27 RM write document describing how PPARC controls unfunded EU 

effort and send to Fab.



ACTION 17.28 RB Provide BaBar+Intergrid slides for Robin.



ACTION 17.30 NB and RB Arrange EB meeting mid March.



ACTION 18.1 NB/RB to investigate reporting format for Experiments 

Testbed experiences.



ACTION 18.3 SLL to get GridPP personnel details on website.



ACTION 18.5 TD Investigate making Glasgow MCU available as a backup.



ACTION 19.1 PC to send latest GANTT chart to TD



ACTION 19.2 JG give brief report on testbed status at RAL.



ACTION 19.3 TD provide summary report of PEB to PMB



ACTION 19.4 SL to issue reminder to CB to respond on RAL posts