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Re: nw sub ...the wayfarer - David

From:

Frank Faust <[log in to unmask]>

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The Pennine Poetry Works <[log in to unmask]>

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Mon, 18 Nov 2002 12:18:24 +1100

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I hesitate to join this discussion, but, as someone who trips and stumbles
over most kinds of formal verse and poetic structures I think the suggestion
that there needs to be some kind of apprenticeship in these things is
extremely limiting and patently wrong.

Get critique, expose your work, do readings - learn and seek an acceptable
'voice' for your work by allmeans - but there is no exclusive pathway to
becoming a competent poet, IM (very) HO.

Cheers,

Frank


The Tales of Faust poetry page can be found at:
http://www.hotkey.net.au/~flp/F_index.htm





>From: grasshopper <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: The Pennine Poetry Works <[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: nw sub ...the wayfarer (Karina)
>Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 01:12:54 -0000
>
>Dear David,
>I hesitate to reply, because I think SallyE has just told me to shut up,
>but..
>Until a few years ago, I would have completely agreed with you. I stuck to
>strict form at first myself. But recent experience has taught me some
>people
>can start off writing very loose free verse, and learn to shape and
>structure that, and then move in formal verse.
>There's another element too,-of the way in which formal verse is regarded
>now in some quarters. I was once told on a mixed poetry group that there
>was
>no demand or interest in strict rhyming verse any more- it was basically
>old
>hat- and statistics were produced about publications which don't accept
>rhymed verse. Whether or not this is a true reflection of the current
>thinking about strict/free verse, I think it may explain why some people do
>not want to start with strict forms.
>And, of course, there are many excellent poets who have never written a
>sonnet -much as I love the sonnet form.
>Kind regards,
>   grasshopper
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Brigid Anthony" <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 12:34 AM
>Subject: Re: nw sub ...the wayfarer (Karina)
>
>
>I don't think anyone should be let loose on free verse until they've
>acquired a reasonable competence in formal verse.
>Otherwise, where's the discipline? Without the discipline, where's the
>poetry?
>Regards,
>David


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