Dear Paul,
Do you mean that it is not true that on most mived poetry lists, the great
proportion of poems posted is free verse? That is certainly my experience,
and it is not a comment on theories of 20th Century poetics,it is just a
statement of how things are in the 21st century.
Kind regards,
 grasshopper
----- Original Message -----
From: paul murphy
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 10:20 PM
Subject: Re: nw sub ...the wayfarer


I don't think this is true at all, and anyway, it is a very glib
introduction to 20th Century poetics.  Try looking at Ezra Pound's views on
the matter, where he rejected the iambic pentameter, but didn't reject the
idea of form or structure at all.  (in my opinion) the iambic pentameter and
all of the rest of these forms are inherited conventions, not simply 'the
true way to write poetry'.  In the past the mysteries of prosody were
supposedly the realm of a narrow elite who could not only understand the
forms, but also use them.  I think that many of these supposed 'masters'
only dubiously understood or employed the forms to write what they
understood to be poetry, in order to communicate with those people, who they
realised in advance, might understand them.  There were other writers who
broke these rules, we call these people 'revolutinaries' or
'revolutionists'.


>From: grasshopper
>Reply-To: The Pennine Poetry Works
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: nw sub ...the wayfarer
>Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 21:02:46 -0000
>
>Dear Karina,
> No, this list isn't just for free verse. All sorts of poetry is
>posted here. Just a little while ago David posted a triolet (which is a
very
>strict form) and I've been guilty of a few sonnets now and then.
>However, the fact is that most poetry posted to mixed lists these days is
>free verse. A lot of people regard traditional strict forms and rhyming
>verse as somehow 'ou of fashion'. I think this is a great shame as I think
>all types of verse have their part to play.
>So please feel free to post any forms you wish here, strict or free...
>Kind regards,
> grasshopper
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Karina Klesko
>Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 8:30 PM
>Subject: Re: nw sub ...the wayfarer
>
>
>Hi to all,
>
>Thank you for your patience with me. After reviewing the comments on this
>poorly written poem, I am concluding that is a free of form forum. Which is
>terrific , but not my love at the moment. I like form and structure at this
>point in my poetry. I write a lot of prose and get my creativity away from
>form there.
>
>Thanks to all, and have enjoyed reading your poetry.
>Perhaps in the future when I am more polished in freeform I will join you
>again.
>
>Love , Karina



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