Where, grassy?
SallyE
on 19/9/02 11:39 pm, grasshopper at [log in to unmask]
wrote:
> Sally, feck was used by rabbie Burns, so I'm pretty sure it pre-dates Father
> Jack.
> Kind reagrds,
> grasshopper
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sally Evans" <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 10:01 PM
> Subject: Re: Heft
>
>
>> No, feck isnt Scottish. I'm pretty sure it was invented by "Father Ted" to
>> stand in for another word he couldnt use on TV.
>> feckless no odder than listless?
>>
>> SallyE
>>
>> on 19/9/02 6:21 pm, grasshopper at [log in to unmask]
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Arthur,
>>> I think feck is a Scottish dialect word with various meaning like effect
> or
>>> amount.
>>> Actually I am always coming upon 'one-way' English words, and wish I had
>>> thought to start listing them. I wonder if there is a list anywhere, on
> the
>>> www, perhaps?
>>> Kind regards,
>>> grasshopper
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: arthur seeley
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 5:02 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Heft
>>>
>>>
>>> Grassy.
>>> Yes, I understand that, but my point was that I would think it would
> drop
>>> naturally from those words even if one had not heard the word 'heft'
> before.
>>> I remember my delight, for instance, when reading Ulysees and Bloom
> visits a
>>> lady in hospital who has just given birth and Joyce describes Bloom,
>>> standing quietly, as 'a sad ruth of a man'.
>>> Incidentally does the word feckless mean anything to you?? If so, what
> is '
>>> feck' ? Or better, since this is a poetry list, what the heck is feck??
>>> Regards Arthur
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: grasshopper
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 4:31 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Heft
>>>
>>>
>>> Ah, Arthur, that sort of argument doesn't always hold because there are
>>> plenty of words that are common in one form, but rarely or never used in
>>> another. I have often been nonplussed, for instance, but I have never
> been
>>> plussed.
>>> Kindreagrds,
>>> grasshopper
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: arthur seeley
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 3:47 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Heft
>>>
>>>
>>> I am puzzled that this word worries folk. Is it so rarely heard. Have
> you
>>> heard of people paying a hefty fine, or something being hefty in weight,
> how
>>> can you know if you do not heft it ?? Clearly it derives from heavy and
>>> heaved, etc. I would not have thought it would cause so much trouble.
>>> Incidentally there are in the Lakes and Northern Dales, 'hefted ' flocks
> of
>>> sheep, such flocks do not wander and if a shepherd requires to see a
> sheep
>>> of hefted stock he will return to its birthplace and find it within 150
>>> yards of the spot. An ewe of hefted stock will return to its birth[place
> to
>>> bear its young. Unfortunately this rare and wondrous breed was
> dreadfully
>>> decimated by the Foot and Mouth outbreak and it is feared that the
> instinct
>>> might be lost altogether. The word hefted as used here bears little
>>> relationship as far as I can see to my use of the word.
>>> Just a useless piece of Dales' Lore to wile away the hours. Regards
> Arthur.
>>
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