Thanks, Jon
what I did was, to dramatize my own contradictions, was (again) to merge the
attacking e-mail by myself on myself and the poem into one text. I tried it
out and it had a good reaction. I could (ha ha) 'problematise' my feelings
about the lyric by saying that it represents a mixture of mysticism,
sentiment, eroticism and despair to me, all of which threaten to topple over
the edge but (I hope) don't quite.
The last poem is always the best, this is quite true!
Best
Dave
David Bircumshaw
Leicester, England
Home Page
A Chide's Alphabet
Painting Without Numbers
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/david.bircumshaw/index.htm
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jon Clay" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 12:25 PM
Subject: Re: Silence
I've had another look, and yes, I think I was right the first time. I do
like it, quite a lot, and I do think it's very beautiful. Nice to know my
critical faculties aren't that badly dented by booze after all. Good job, my
MA might be buggered if they were.
I'm pleased you like my own effort, David, I think it's one of my better
ones. Mind you, you always like the most recent the most, don't you? (The
'you' here is, of course, generic rather than personal)
Does _any_ of this make sense?
Cheers,
Jon
>From: "david.bircumshaw" <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: Poetryetc provides a venue for a dialogue relating to poetry and
> poetics <[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Silence
>Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 15:14:52 +0100
>
>I really don't know myself, Jon, but what I thought I'd do is play a game
>with my own psyche, my identity, something that some people think is fun to
>do, to do a Flann O'Brien on myself, as it were. It's actually a
>psychologically dangerous game to play: that way the Institute lies, but
>interesting.
>
>I probably do like my poem, but I forget so much that I write these days, I
>do know I like that one of yours, I said so before on BritPo.
>
>I only get hangovers these days if I drink brandy, anything else I can
>demolish without a wince, 'tis a bad sign.
>
>Best
>
>Dave
>
>
>David Bircumshaw
>
>Leicester, England
>
>Home Page
>
>A Chide's Alphabet
>
>Painting Without Numbers
>
>http://homepage.ntlworld.com/david.bircumshaw/index.htm
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jon Clay" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 1:57 PM
>Subject: Re: Silence
>
>
> >I think this is a trashy poem, it reads like a Sufi on a bad hair day,
>
>Really? Maybe my taste is buggered, but I liked it. Mind you, I've got a
>hangover and that makes me sentimental.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Jon
>
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