Paul
your question has me totally lost - yup, living in backwaters might help in
being unaware of conventions, but that wasn't what I was thinking about. I
want to be angry about the way poetry is now: fraud, deceit, theft, lies are
its commonplaces, I don't want to complacently burble on about theory, I
want to say: THIS IS NOT RIGHT.
Essentially, poetry, like all the other arts, like our culture in general,
is corrupt, poetry is a very minor participant, coz there ain't all that
much money in it, but it happens, I know all too well about the users and
abusers that inhabit the scene, who feign and fake moral concern while
really looking out for themselves alone, you just try being ripped off by
people on the scale I have, it is not a nice experience.
David Bircumshaw
Leicester, England
Home Page
A Chide's Alphabet
Painting Without Numbers
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/david.bircumshaw/index.htm
----- Original Message -----
From: "paul murphy" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 10:34 PM
Subject: Re: Padraic Fallon
you mean that it was written outside the conventions of what passed for
literature in that period? For goodness sake, people living in backwater
Ireland are always going to be writing in the way you describe, simply
because they don't know what the conventions of literature should be, or are
probably reading writers who are at least 30 years out of date.
>From: "david.bircumshaw"
>Reply-To: Poetryetc provides a venue for a dialogue relating to poetry and
poetics
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Padraic Fallon
>Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:52:48 -0000
>
>Doug
>
>I remember buying the very same out-of-date Padraic Fallon when I was about
>nineteen, I think. His poems struck me, very uneven but full of texture, of
>charges of rhythm and sound, very unlike the boring stuff that is mostly
>produced today, they took risks, but when people are writing poems not from
>an inner need but to an eye to grants, winning competitions, being invited
>to read, status in the the literary community, as it were, the result is
>utter dullness. I could say more but I'd better not.
>
>Best
>
>Dave
>
>
>David Bircumshaw
>
>Leicester, England
>
>Home Page
>
>A Chide's Alphabet
>
>Painting Without Numbers
>
>http://homepage.ntlworld.com/david.bircumshaw/index.htm
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Douglas Clark"
>To:
>Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 4:39 PM
>Subject: Padraic Fallon
>
>
>Just to say that I got the new Carcanet catalogue in this
>morning and see that in Autumn 2003 they intend issuing a
>new Padraic Fallon Selected POems to replace the out-of-print
>book that I have. I think it is the only book in the catalogue
>that I will buy as basically I part company with keeping
>up-to-date with poetry.
>
>
>
>Douglas Clark, Bath, England mailto: [log in to unmask]
>Lynx: Poetry from Bath .......... http://www.bath.ac.uk/~exxdgdc/lynx.html
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