Just so, Ralph--fair enough and good onya for tolerance!
Thanks,
Candice
on 1/25/02 12:38 AM, Ralph Wessman at [log in to unmask]
wrote:
> Fair enough Candice. Each of us to our own opinion.
>
> I think Lawrence's point of view one of the best I've read on this topic.
>
> Ralph
>
>>>> Candice Ward <[log in to unmask]> 25/01/2002 2:34:58 pm >>>
> Hey, come on, Lawrence--this isn't fair. We're all of us living in glass
> houses when it comes to prejudice, and it doesn't logically follow that
> popular opinions are any freer of prejudice than unpopular ones. In my no
> doubt blinkered opinion, Josie's just as entitled to the courtesies as
> anyone arguing the other side, and rebuking her or condescending to her or
> expressing anger at her, personally, targets _her_, not the opinions to
> which everyone's entitled to take exception. It was helpful to me to hear
> more than one perspective on a situation in another country that I couldn't
> judge for myself, and I didn't hear Josie calling any asylum-seekers names
> or otherwise speaking in a prejudiced, stereotyping way. That's how she was
> spoken to, though, by a number of people, who leaped to conclusions about
> her and stereotyped her as prejudiced--which sucks, IMHO.
>
> Candice
>
>
>
> on 1/24/02 8:06 PM, Lawrence Upton at [log in to unmask]
> wrote:
>
>> Devil's advocacy is using powerful arguments to test another and / or their
>> ideas
>>
>> It *isn't the serving up of prejudice
>>
>> Devil's advocacy has nothing to do with a process which involves bringing
>> balance, which *was claimed. Devil's advocacy does not bring balance. It
>> brings rigour, when it's done well
>>
>> "I am bringing balance" is the claim of the person who believes they are
>> putting a valid point of view which needs to be heard
>>
>> The views you put certainly were other people's; and it's a pity they
>> were aired further by you or anyone
>>
>> L
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Printmaker" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: 24 January 2002 22:07
>> Subject: Re: Silence
>>
>>
>> | > I think also Josephine that you are confusing "migrants" with "asylum
>> | > seekers" and "refugees".
>> |
>> | *sigh*
>> |
>> | I'm not confusing anything Alison. As I said many times, I
>> | was reporting _other people's_ opinions in response to
>> | someone's questions, and acting as devil's advocate. I keep
>> | my real opinions to myself.
>> |
>> | The only opinion I will own up to is that I have no sympathy
>> | for self inflicted injuries, and I explained why.
>> |
>> | I was a migrant, now I have a certificate that says I'm an
>> | aussie.
>> |
>> |
>> | josie
>> |
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