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Re What language?

From:

KENT JOHNSON <[log in to unmask]>

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Poetryetc provides a venue for a dialogue relating to poetry and poetics <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Sat, 25 May 2002 19:27:46 -0500

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Erminia,

That was a wonderful post. I wholeheartedly agree with its
sentiments and with the beautiful force of its swollen language.
Here is a similar frustration, expressed by an architect from
Russia, who wrote me some months ago. I have tried to preserve
its strange and ravaged formatting. I thnk I might have posted it
here before, but now I can't remember. Anyway, here it is again, if I
did. I can't think of anything to say myself, these past few days,
being on antibiotics after slipping while fishing and jamming a stick
halfway through my palm, so I must resort to the inspired words of
others. thank goodness for the Copy command!:

**

[First interregnum: E-mail from an Architect in Russia.Original
formatting kept.]:

                     My greetings from Gymnasium of Architecture to all
people who

                     will VOTE in Russia. Dear Kent. There was a

                     question to say to my Russians not

                     to be capable to Vote. FUCK YOU> This is
ridiculous and insulting, not to

                     mention ignorent of communist tradition in Golden
AGe >

                     before twelfth Congress.>>For example, Tatlin,
which man you cartoon,his tower to Third
                     International:
                     do

                     you think Eiffel tower could lean like a SS20?? (So
boring and predictable

                     you of the West.))I give Kronstadt as an example
where Great

                     Bakunin was dismembered his body (and agents of
Prussia) because of

                     Russian people's Love to their >country,their families
and their Lenin. Also

                     Trotsky, destroyed fortunatelyby David ((muralist and
Architect))

                     >>Siqueiros, And this tradition continues inspite >of
terrible conditions some

                     Muskovy people found themselves when Freedom
>Came Upon in October (*hah* what Ironi,
                     Mr.Architect!!!). It is
                     fucking capitalism you New York and Sheffield petit
bourgeosie, you keep saying space, Bauhaus,
                     diorama to be success
                     in in for some decadent fucking city, do you know a
child who is >hungry for freedom

                     *and also bread*??? You said that you were writing
about >Russia. FUCK

                     YOU. Did you mention that it was not the right time
to strive to Freedom yet. Shachtmanite!!! Harvard
                     Boy!!!The nation
                     was not wet in it yet. Too much

                     of in it, wetness created nothing but more >of cruelty

                     tie me down petit!! When

                     I will put my first plastics phallic of >Our Lives In
Space And Time

                     online I will let you

                     know .FUCK YOU. May. be thenyou will understand
a

                     little bit more about Russia, my wet hair.

                     I.ve already mentioned once that Diane >Sawer's
mistake

                     and Barbra Waters also (bitch)>was that she should
had study sex in her wet

                     MANCUNT (do you know this expression?) before
she announced Boris

                     Yestsin a hero . Drunk Bastard!!!, And she would
>not know about necessary Cruelty which
                     happened

                     under that Lenin who was a true man against Whites
and Social Revolutionryes(I am talking about
                     the
                     best people of Russia
                     who wanted a bit of

                     >>Freedom for Russian people similar to what was
happening before in Paris,,, >not Mensheviks.

                     FUCK YOU.And that is called the vote of all! What is
your life with no

                     COMPUTER??? Vote for Nasser. Don't waste it.

                     --Maireya

                     **

Erminia said:

They say: when you move to a foreign country, you never know to
what kind
 of language you are exposing yourself. You come from a family of
 professional people, from a literary intellectual background
especially?
 Forget part of that: you move to another nation and you lay
yourself bare
 on the ground as a newly born child. You are there, anew, ready to
absorb
 the new language: all depends from what people you are going to
be
 transmitted that new mother tongue from and in what new
environment.
 - Yes, fucking right, the same happened to me, lads. I moved to
this
 country, England, between seven to nine years ago. It better be
the latter
 end. I have no idea as to what kind of English I was exposed to,
what
 mother-tongue? If you're expecting me to actually open my lips and
 physically utter the English idiom in the received pronunciation,
you are
 fucking mistaken. Do I really give a shit? I'm telling you...I've got
 whole shitload of other questions in my mind. My only
preoccupation is to
 grab my dinner... I fucking hate this I want to suffer bit of what other
 people here are going through bullshit...They tell me: you have a
dead ear
 for English...
 I better still fucking be in lala-dream land...my lips are so heavy,
 bitch, you boca took up six hours of prime time; have some
decency....It's
 bad enough the god damn sun is streaming directly into my eyes
as if I
 were an homosexual....

 Utter the English idiom properly? Load of feces. It's fucking
 impossible....



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