>Man's invention 'god' could not have created man, man hadn't invented it
yet.
Ahh, but since man could not create (as in manufacture) God but he could
invent as in "imagine" God. So my argument survives your counter.
There are several gaping flaws with my argument. As always. The one you
named isn't one. Not that it matters, since you werte acting in the
interest of comedy, which seems more important than any philosophical points
about the self.
Cogito ergo sum isn't going to help us either. I agree with David Hume,
namely, that Cogito ergo . . . cogito. All that is to be found are
thoughts, and thoughts do not imply a self. Thoughts only imply themselves,
but they do not even imply connections between them, any substratum
whatsoever. There may only be thoughts, and no self whatsoever. Maybe.
Perhaps the self could be conceived as nothing more than a word that acts as
some variable, a variable that does not necessitate any one value over
another to fill it.
"Your space here is not your holy vault. Do not exalt O bordered sea of you
and only you.
With stratagem, fence, and rampart retort, you offend, you command x, your
self, to defend.
. . .
Unknowing you may be reading by sleeping in dreams unowned, no ending in a
fool and y thanks you and only you."
Best,
Patrick
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Subject: Re: Authorial Intervention
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> In another sense of 'invented,' (as in 'created') all things seem to have
> produced man at a precise temporal and spatial intersection of all things,
> so man IS an invention of God.
Here is the flaw.
Man's invention 'god' could not have created man, man hadn't
invented it yet.
Man crawled from the swamps and created himself.
(Woman had better things to do that day.)
Man thought and he was. Elementary really.
Then man thought he'd invent God just for the heck of it.
It'd give him an excuse to steal from the neighbours,
as in "I am the chosen people - its mine, all mine!"
Now he's having second thoughts.
Woman says "I told you so! - Now put it back the way it
was."
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