Most of the comments to date have related the need for pre-employment health
screening to the COSHH Regulations, i.e. chemical exposure. The mere fact
of chemical exposure in a job does not necessarily require pre-employment
screening or routine health surveillance. There has to be some clinical or
sub-clinical measurement that can be made of the effects of a chemical on
health before such surveillance is warranted The guidance on COSHH Health
Surveillance gives three criteria needed before health surveillance is
undertaken:
1. exposure to a hazardous substance may lead to a disease or adverse
health effect;
2. there is a reasonable likelihood that the disease or effect will
occur under the conditions of work;
3. there are techniques for detecting indications of the disease or
effect.
As an example, you would conduct health surveillance of wood machinists for
asthma (meets all three conditions above), but not for nasal cancer as there
is no method for detecting indications of the disease or effect (so I have
been informed when I last asked).
Although only an Occupational Hygienist I have taken this guidance to cover
substances that are lung or skin sensitisers and skin carcinogens, and some
of the heavy metals that have BEI's, but not just chemicals in general.
Essentially this means that health surveillance and screening, like
everything else conducted under the COSHH Regulations should be risk based.
I.e. a risk assessment database for the various tasks and jobs should be
available to the OH Practitioner to enable a decision to be made on the
health screening requirements for any applicant for any post. No complaints
please everyone has had 14 years to do this.
However there a number of other circumstances in which health screening
would be required. The Management of Health and Safety at Work Regulations
also requires risk assessment and where required health surveillance, so
this would cover noise, vibration, WRULD and other ergonomic issues and
eyesight (Display Screen Users, welders). Again the decision to conduct the
health surveillance/screening should be based on risk assessment.
Personnel working in remote areas (offshore oil workers for example) would
also require health screening because of the difficulty in getting emergency
medical treatment.
And finally, health screening is required to protect an organisation from
false claims i.e. it creates a health baseline of the individual on entry to
the organisation for comparison with later health status.
Regards
Richard Brown
Occupational Hygienist
Health, Safety & Environment Division
Abu Dhabi Marine Operating Company
PO Box 303, Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates
Tel: +971-260-65325
Fax: +971-260-64997
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There are 22 messages totalling 1348 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Occupational Deafness (2)
2. journals (6)
3. Health Screening (11)
4. FW: Occupational Deafness
5. occ health for teachers - a mystery to me! (2)
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Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 08:47:46 +0100
From: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Occupational Deafness
Hi folks.
This one is purely out of curiosity.
A guy from the shop floor (hearing conservation area) applied for
Industrial
Injuries Disablement Benefit for Occupational Deafness, which was
not
upheld.
He brought the report in and asked me to have a look at it and by
their
criteria he does not qualify.
The criteria in their report states that the threshold had to be an
average
of 50dB in the 1,2 & 3kHz.
This surprised as everything I have about noise induced hearing loss
says
that it is the higher frequencies, 3,4 & 6kHz ,(usually) that are
affected
and the lower frequency are usually affected as it deteriorates and
spreads,
the 4kHz dip.
Now I'm left wondering if I have missed something or misinterpreted
the info
I have? Anyone on the list who has been involved with these medical
assessments for the benefits agency that can enlighten me as to why
this is
the criteria and what evidence supports it?
Regrads
Craig Graham
Occupational Health Advisor
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Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 09:52:59 +0100
From: Fehmidah Munir <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: journals
Dear all
As a researcher/lecturer rather than a practitioner I would like to
know which journals/magazines are widely read by all, particularly
those
working in the field of Workplace Health promotion. I am aware of
Occupational Health, but I am not sure whether it is widely read.
Any help would be grateful
Dr Fehmidah Munir
www.i-who.org
Dr Fehmidah Munir
Institute of Work, Health and Organisations
Science and Technology Park
William Lee Buildings
University of Nottingham
Castle Boulevard
Nottingham NG7 2RQ
UK
Tel: +44 11584 66639
Email: [log in to unmask]
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Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 11:11:56 +0200
From: Kelley Phil AD GB <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: journals
Hi,
The journals I use are
Practice Nurse
Nusing Times
Occupational Health.
I also subscribe to Croner Management of Health Risks. The other
professional body journals I subscribe to are
Safety and Health Practitioner (IOSH)
Health and Hygiene (RIPH).
I also have access to
Occupational and Environmental Medicine
Occupational Health Review.
Sometimes I do some work!
Regs
Phil Kelley
-----Original Message-----
From: Fehmidah Munir [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 26 April 2002 09:53
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: journals
Dear all
As a researcher/lecturer rather than a practitioner I would like to
know which journals/magazines are widely read by all, particularly
those
working in the field of Workplace Health promotion. I am aware of
Occupational Health, but I am not sure whether it is widely read.
Any help would be grateful
Dr Fehmidah Munir
www.i-who.org
Dr Fehmidah Munir
Institute of Work, Health and Organisations
Science and Technology Park
William Lee Buildings
University of Nottingham
Castle Boulevard
Nottingham NG7 2RQ
UK
Tel: +44 11584 66639
Email: [log in to unmask]
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Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 10:29:12 +0100
From: Stuart Cooper <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: journals
Dear Fehmidah,
For widely read occupational health journals I would suggest -
'Occupational Medicine' (published by the Faculty of Occupational
Medicine)
and 'OH Review' (published by the Industrial Relations Society).
The
journal that you mention 'Occupational Health' is good for general
reading
but a little weak on research.
I am not aware of any journal that particularly focuses on workplace
health
promotion, but the above will clearly carry some relevant material.
The
general health education journals which are reasonably good for
research
are, 'Health Promotion International' (Oxford Journals), 'Health
Education
Journal' (Manchester University), 'International Journal of Health
Promotion
and Education (Institute of Health Promotion & Education).
I hope that this helps.
Best wishes,
Stuart.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fehmidah Munir" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 9:52 AM
Subject: journals
> Dear all
>
> As a researcher/lecturer rather than a practitioner I would like
to
> know which journals/magazines are widely read by all, particularly
those
> working in the field of Workplace Health promotion. I am aware of
> Occupational Health, but I am not sure whether it is widely read.
>
> Any help would be grateful
>
> Dr Fehmidah Munir
> www.i-who.org
>
>
> Dr Fehmidah Munir
> Institute of Work, Health and Organisations
> Science and Technology Park
> William Lee Buildings
> University of Nottingham
> Castle Boulevard
> Nottingham NG7 2RQ
> UK
> Tel: +44 11584 66639
> Email: [log in to unmask]
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Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 11:11:26 +0100
From: Stuart Cooper <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Occupational Deafness
Hi Craig,
Sorry I can't give you a direct answer - I know that there criteria
states
that the loss must be 50 decibels in each ear and that in at least
one ear
this should have been caused by noise at work. You will find an
applicant
advice leaflet, if you haven't seen one at:
http://www.dwp.gov.uk/publications/dwp/2001/sd6.pdf
There are also several position papers published by the Industrial
Injuries
Advisory Council that might help. You will find info on these and
their
other publications on their website - www.iiac.org.uk
Best wishes,
Stuart.
----- Original Message -----
From: <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 8:47 AM
Subject: Occupational Deafness
> Hi folks.
>
> This one is purely out of curiosity.
>
> A guy from the shop floor (hearing conservation area) applied for
Industrial
> Injuries Disablement Benefit for Occupational Deafness, which was
not
> upheld.
>
> He brought the report in and asked me to have a look at it and by
their
> criteria he does not qualify.
>
> The criteria in their report states that the threshold had to be
an
average
> of 50dB in the 1,2 & 3kHz.
>
> This surprised as everything I have about noise induced hearing
loss says
> that it is the higher frequencies, 3,4 & 6kHz ,(usually) that are
affected
> and the lower frequency are usually affected as it deteriorates
and
spreads,
> the 4kHz dip.
>
> Now I'm left wondering if I have missed something or
misinterpreted the
info
> I have? Anyone on the list who has been involved with these
medical
> assessments for the benefits agency that can enlighten me as to
why this
is
> the criteria and what evidence supports it?
>
> Regrads
>
> Craig Graham
> Occupational Health Advisor
>
>
>
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Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 11:53:13 +0100
From: Cynthia Atwell <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: journals
I take Occupational Health and OH Review These I think are the most
widely
read, but I may be wrong!??
I subscribe to the Annals of Occupational Hygiene, as a member of
the BOHS.
I also have access to Occupational Medicine
Cynthia Atwell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fehmidah Munir" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 9:52 AM
Subject: journals
> Dear all
>
> As a researcher/lecturer rather than a practitioner I would like
to
> know which journals/magazines are widely read by all, particularly
those
> working in the field of Workplace Health promotion. I am aware of
> Occupational Health, but I am not sure whether it is widely read.
>
> Any help would be grateful
>
> Dr Fehmidah Munir
> www.i-who.org
>
>
> Dr Fehmidah Munir
> Institute of Work, Health and Organisations
> Science and Technology Park
> William Lee Buildings
> University of Nottingham
> Castle Boulevard
> Nottingham NG7 2RQ
> UK
> Tel: +44 11584 66639
> Email: [log in to unmask]
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Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 12:31:00 +0100
From: Jean Piernicki <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Health Screening
I am based at a university. Last year aparently a number of
lecturers
objected to completing a pre-employment health screening when they
were
perhaps only visitng for 5 or 6 lectures but were technically
employees at
that time. Personnel contacted other universities and none
apparently did
this and felt it was "over the top" on the part of our uni. to do
this. I
would be interested to know what other places do? Do you do a full
screen
or a modified one or none?
Thank you for your time
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Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 12:28:23 +0100
From: Rory O'Neill <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: journals
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Subject: Re: journals
Hi,
The journals I use are
Practice Nurse
Nusing Times
Occupational Health.
I also subscribe to Croner Management of Health Risks. The other
professional body journals I subscribe to are
Safety and Health Practitioner (IOSH)
Health and Hygiene (RIPH).
I also have access to
Occupational and Environmental Medicine
Occupational Health Review.
Sometimes I do some work!
Regs
Phil Kelley
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From: Fehmidah Munir [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 26 April 2002 09:53
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: journals
Dear all
As a researcher/lecturer rather than a practitioner I would like to
know which journals/magazines are widely read by all, particularly
those
working in the field of Workplace Health promotion. I am aware of
Occupational Health, but I am not sure whether it is widely read.
Any help would be grateful
Dr Fehmidah Munir
www.i-who.org
Dr Fehmidah Munir
Institute of Work, Health and Organisations
Science and Technology Park
William Lee Buildings
University of Nottingham
Castle Boulevard
Nottingham NG7 2RQ
UK
Tel: +44 11584 66639
Email: [log in to unmask]
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Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 12:41:44 +0100
From: Greta Thornbory <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Health Screening
As some one who is on a temporary short term contract at Uni I too
refused
to fill in a health declaration form - why because I couldn't see
any reason
to do so. I was not entitled to sick pay, nor pension etc. plus I
cannot
think what special health needs a lecturer would need to have to do
the
job - other than to be 'fit to work'. I agree that this is a bit OTT
and
that it is a waste of valuable and expensive resources, in
professional time
etc.
Greta Thornbory
Education & Health Care Consultant
WWW.gtenterprises-uk.com
01235 770156 phone
01235 765797 fax
07778 518 027 mobile
----- Original Message -----
From: Jean Piernicki <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 12:31 PM
Subject: Health Screening
> I am based at a university. Last year aparently a number of
lecturers
> objected to completing a pre-employment health screening when they
were
> perhaps only visitng for 5 or 6 lectures but were technically
employees at
> that time. Personnel contacted other universities and none
apparently did
> this and felt it was "over the top" on the part of our uni. to do
this. I
> would be interested to know what other places do? Do you do a full
screen
> or a modified one or none?
> Thank you for your time
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 13:01:20 +0100
From: Stuart Cooper <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Health Screening
Generally I would agree with Greta but I would suggest that the
question you need to ask yourself is for what purpose are you undertaking a
health screen?
One possible reason for screening for instance could be to meet your
obligations under COSHH, if the lecturer is exposed to a risk activity.
Best wishes,
Stuart.
> from: Jean Piernicki <[log in to unmask]>
> date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 12:31:00
> to: [log in to unmask]
> subject: Re: Health Screening
>
> I am based at a university. Last year aparently a number of
lecturers
> objected to completing a pre-employment health screening when they
were
> perhaps only visitng for 5 or 6 lectures but were technically
employees at
> that time. Personnel contacted other universities and none
apparently did
> this and felt it was "over the top" on the part of our uni. to do
this. I
> would be interested to know what other places do? Do you do a full
screen
> or a modified one or none?
> Thank you for your time
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 13:56:46 +0100
From: Amanda Dowson <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Health Screening
We screen everyone who is employed by us. There are however
"visiting"
lecturers who are "self-employed" that are not screened.
There needs to be a balance between applying the same standards to
all to
ensure equity and parity of organisational practices; and a sensible
approach to a problem. When does a short term employee become a long
term
employee ?
Have you seen the "Fitness to Teach" guidance ? available on wired
for
health website and pertinent to education sector, although strictly
only
applies to FE/primary and secondary schools.
Hope this helps
Amanda Dowson
Health Services Manager
Bradford College
> ----------
> From: Jean Piernicki[SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> Reply To: Jean Piernicki
> Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 12:31 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Health Screening
>
> I am based at a university. Last year aparently a number of
lecturers
> objected to completing a pre-employment health screening when they
were
> perhaps only visitng for 5 or 6 lectures but were technically
employees at
> that time. Personnel contacted other universities and none
apparently did
> this and felt it was "over the top" on the part of our uni. to do
this. I
> would be interested to know what other places do? Do you do a full
screen
> or a modified one or none?
> Thank you for your time
>
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 14:23:13 +0100
From: Greta Thornbory <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Health Screening
Yes, I agree with Stuart - after I had sent my e mail I remembered
that
there are some lecturers who are at risk under COSHH - but that
would be
specific to certain areas only........
Greta
----- Original Message -----
From: Stuart Cooper <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 1:01 PM
Subject: Re: Health Screening
> Generally I would agree with Greta but I would suggest that the
question
you need to ask yourself is for what purpose are you undertaking a
health
screen?
>
> One possible reason for screening for instance could be to meet
your
obligations under COSHH, if the lecturer is exposed to a risk
activity.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Stuart.
>
> > from: Jean Piernicki <[log in to unmask]>
> > date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 12:31:00
> > to: [log in to unmask]
> > subject: Re: Health Screening
> >
> > I am based at a university. Last year aparently a number of
lecturers
> > objected to completing a pre-employment health screening when
they were
> > perhaps only visitng for 5 or 6 lectures but were technically
employees
at
> > that time. Personnel contacted other universities and none
apparently
did
> > this and felt it was "over the top" on the part of our uni. to
do this.
I
> > would be interested to know what other places do? Do you do a
full
screen
> > or a modified one or none?
> > Thank you for your time
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 14:28:44 +0100
From: Greta Thornbory <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Health Screening
Hi Amanda
I am very interested to hear about 'Fitness to teach' as I am a
governor of
a primary school. I have asked many times about OH facilitates for
staff and
even tried to find it on the local county councils website etc.
without much
luck. I understand from one of my students that there is an OH nurse
for the
county (Oxfordshire - in case the OH nurse concerned reads this) and
that
their singleton post if for all county council employees. I wonder
how they
cope with it all!!!!! especially as the schools don't seem to know
he/she is
there! Have you got the webaddress?
Cheers,
Greta Thornbory
Education & Health Care Consultant
WWW.gtenterprises-uk.com
01235 770156 phone
01235 765797 fax
07778 518 027 mobile
----- Original Message -----
From: Amanda Dowson <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: Health Screening
> We screen everyone who is employed by us. There are however
"visiting"
> lecturers who are "self-employed" that are not screened.
>
> There needs to be a balance between applying the same standards to
all to
> ensure equity and parity of organisational practices; and a
sensible
> approach to a problem. When does a short term employee become a
long term
> employee ?
>
> Have you seen the "Fitness to Teach" guidance ? available on wired
for
> health website and pertinent to education sector, although
strictly only
> applies to FE/primary and secondary schools.
>
> Hope this helps
>
> Amanda Dowson
> Health Services Manager
> Bradford College
>
>
> > ----------
> > From: Jean Piernicki[SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> > Reply To: Jean Piernicki
> > Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 12:31 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Health Screening
> >
> > I am based at a university. Last year aparently a number of
lecturers
> > objected to completing a pre-employment health screening when
they were
> > perhaps only visitng for 5 or 6 lectures but were technically
employees
at
> > that time. Personnel contacted other universities and none
apparently
did
> > this and felt it was "over the top" on the part of our uni. to
do this.
I
> > would be interested to know what other places do? Do you do a
full
screen
> > or a modified one or none?
> > Thank you for your time
> >
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Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 14:41:34 +0100
From: "a.beckerton" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Health Screening
I would only screen anyone if there was a hazard associated with the
post,
as Stuart said - a COSSH implication. This would be few and far
between
with lectures I suspect. Likewise I have been asked about visitors
to areas
with potential risks i.e. animal houses and I always devise a very
short
questionnaire which says something like ' the area you will be
visiting is
potentially hazardous for some people, please check this list and
sign at
the bottom if you can answer 'no' to all the questions' Then list
the
health problems appropriate (asthma, atopy) and if they can sign
this it is
kept by the person organising the visit. Note this is not
confidential
medical information as they are only saying they do not have any of
these
conditions. Anyone who is unable to sign gets a more comprehensive
investigation by us. Have used similar for agency staff.
Sorry I cannot forward copies to people as I usually do them on
request,
about 5 minutes work, and am busy cleaning my data prior to imminent
departure.
Anne
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jean Piernicki" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 12:31 PM
Subject: Health Screening
> I am based at a university. Last year aparently a number of
lecturers
> objected to completing a pre-employment health screening when they
were
> perhaps only visitng for 5 or 6 lectures but were technically
employees at
> that time. Personnel contacted other universities and none
apparently did
> this and felt it was "over the top" on the part of our uni. to do
this. I
> would be interested to know what other places do? Do you do a full
screen
> or a modified one or none?
> Thank you for your time
>
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Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 14:48:55 +0100
From: Amanda Dowson <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: FW: Occupational Deafness
Comments from Dr Stewart Lloyd, Consultant Specialist in Occ Med and
ex ENT
guy which actually make sense !! :
IIB is a strange, hybrid beast. The eligibility for benefit is, by &
large,
governed by disability/handicap, not "impairment". Also, one has to
be at
least
14% disabled (!) before one gets a bean. Thus, the criteria for NIHL
IIB
cover
the speech frequencies, which is where (obviously) handicap would be
most
pronounced, not the higher frequencies that are affected first by
noise. To
reach the "14%" threshold (in the absence of any other qualifying
injury),
one
is required, as the poster says, to have an average loss of 50dBHL
over
those 3
frequencies. This is, in fact, very deaf indeed and also quite
difficult to
achieve purely by noise exposure alone.
> ----------
> From: Stuart Cooper[SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> Reply To: Stuart Cooper
> Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 11:11 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Occupational Deafness
>
> Hi Craig,
>
> Sorry I can't give you a direct answer - I know that there
criteria states
> that the loss must be 50 decibels in each ear and that in at least
one ear
> this should have been caused by noise at work. You will find an
applicant
> advice leaflet, if you haven't seen one at:
>
> http://www.dwp.gov.uk/publications/dwp/2001/sd6.pdf
>
> There are also several position papers published by the Industrial
> Injuries
> Advisory Council that might help. You will find info on these and
their
> other publications on their website - www.iiac.org.uk
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Stuart.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 8:47 AM
> Subject: Occupational Deafness
>
>
> > Hi folks.
> >
> > This one is purely out of curiosity.
> >
> > A guy from the shop floor (hearing conservation area) applied
for
> Industrial
> > Injuries Disablement Benefit for Occupational Deafness, which
was not
> > upheld.
> >
> > He brought the report in and asked me to have a look at it and
by their
> > criteria he does not qualify.
> >
> > The criteria in their report states that the threshold had to be
an
> average
> > of 50dB in the 1,2 & 3kHz.
> >
> > This surprised as everything I have about noise induced hearing
loss
> says
> > that it is the higher frequencies, 3,4 & 6kHz ,(usually) that
are
> affected
> > and the lower frequency are usually affected as it deteriorates
and
> spreads,
> > the 4kHz dip.
> >
> > Now I'm left wondering if I have missed something or
misinterpreted the
> info
> > I have? Anyone on the list who has been involved with these
medical
> > assessments for the benefits agency that can enlighten me as to
why
> this
> is
> > the criteria and what evidence supports it?
> >
> > Regrads
> >
> > Craig Graham
> > Occupational Health Advisor
> >
> >
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Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 15:53:38 +0200
From: Kelley Phil AD GB <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Health Screening
Hi,
As well as the health implications (CoSHH) you may need to consider
safety
aspects- means of escape A bit OTT I agree.
Regs
Phil
-----Original Message-----
From: Jean Piernicki [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 26 April 2002 12:31
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Health Screening
I am based at a university. Last year aparently a number of
lecturers
objected to completing a pre-employment health screening when they
were
perhaps only visitng for 5 or 6 lectures but were technically
employees at
that time. Personnel contacted other universities and none
apparently did
this and felt it was "over the top" on the part of our uni. to do
this. I
would be interested to know what other places do? Do you do a full
screen
or a modified one or none?
Thank you for your time
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 14:57:11 +0100
From: Amanda Dowson <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Health Screening
Web site address :
http://www.wiredforhealth.gov.uk/healthy/healgov.html
This guidance notes for managers and OH professionals are based on
circular
4/99 from the then DFEE now DFES and are an interpretation / ACOP of
the
Teachers Regs.
As a matter of interest to you (Greta) as a school governor, the
devolvement
legislation in the education sector means that the chair of
governors has
the responsibility of chief exec for the school for health and
safety,
employment law issues etc.
This gets round the fact that you need equity and parity across the
LEA.
Each school should be able to purchase either time from the LA OHN
or
purchase advice from an independant OHN (for 1p perhaps if you know
of a
willing OHN !)
You can as a board of governors manage your own OH&S problems as you
see fit
without reference to the LEA as long as you can justify your actions
in a
court of law.
Hope this helps.
Amanda D
> ----------
> From: Greta Thornbory[SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 2:28 PM
> To: Amanda Dowson; [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Re: Health Screening
>
> Hi Amanda
> I am very interested to hear about 'Fitness to teach' as I am a
governor
> of
> a primary school. I have asked many times about OH facilitates for
staff
> and
> even tried to find it on the local county councils website etc.
without
> much
> luck. I understand from one of my students that there is an OH
nurse for
> the
> county (Oxfordshire - in case the OH nurse concerned reads this)
and that
> their singleton post if for all county council employees. I wonder
how
> they
> cope with it all!!!!! especially as the schools don't seem to know
he/she
> is
> there! Have you got the webaddress?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Greta Thornbory
> Education & Health Care Consultant
> WWW.gtenterprises-uk.com
> 01235 770156 phone
> 01235 765797 fax
> 07778 518 027 mobile
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Amanda Dowson <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 1:56 PM
> Subject: Re: Health Screening
>
>
> > We screen everyone who is employed by us. There are however
"visiting"
> > lecturers who are "self-employed" that are not screened.
> >
> > There needs to be a balance between applying the same standards
to all
> to
> > ensure equity and parity of organisational practices; and a
sensible
> > approach to a problem. When does a short term employee become a
long
> term
> > employee ?
> >
> > Have you seen the "Fitness to Teach" guidance ? available on
wired for
> > health website and pertinent to education sector, although
strictly only
> > applies to FE/primary and secondary schools.
> >
> > Hope this helps
> >
> > Amanda Dowson
> > Health Services Manager
> > Bradford College
> >
> >
> > > ----------
> > > From: Jean Piernicki[SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> > > Reply To: Jean Piernicki
> > > Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 12:31 PM
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: Health Screening
> > >
> > > I am based at a university. Last year aparently a number of
lecturers
> > > objected to completing a pre-employment health screening when
they
> were
> > > perhaps only visitng for 5 or 6 lectures but were technically
> employees
> at
> > > that time. Personnel contacted other universities and none
apparently
> did
> > > this and felt it was "over the top" on the part of our uni. to
do
> this.
> I
> > > would be interested to know what other places do? Do you do a
full
> screen
> > > or a modified one or none?
> > > Thank you for your time
> > >
>
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Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 15:19:13 +0100
From: Greta Thornbory <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: journals
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from =
the BMJ group - you will find it at www.occenvmed.com this gives you
=
access to other BMJ journals including 'Evidence based medicine' and
=
'Evidence based nursing'.
Also Nursing Standard is on line and you can search - for RCN
members =
you can register through the RCN website to search BNI free and to =
access certain Blackwell nursing journals including Journal of
Advanced =
Nursing; International Journal of Nursing Practice and Journal of =
Nursing Management. Not OH, or even health promotion, specific but =
certainly worth a look or keeping an eye on when needing up-to-date
=
info.
Greta Thornbory
Education & Health Care Consultant
WWW.gtenterprises-uk.com
01235 770156 phone
01235 765797 fax
07778 518 027 mobile
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From: Fehmidah Munir <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 9:52 AM
Subject: journals
> Dear all
>=20
> As a researcher/lecturer rather than a practitioner I would like
to
> know which journals/magazines are widely read by all, particularly
=
those
> working in the field of Workplace Health promotion. I am aware of
> Occupational Health, but I am not sure whether it is widely read.
>=20
> Any help would be grateful
>=20
> Dr Fehmidah Munir
> www.i-who.org
>=20
>=20
> Dr Fehmidah Munir
> Institute of Work, Health and Organisations
> Science and Technology Park
> William Lee Buildings
> University of Nottingham
> Castle Boulevard
> Nottingham NG7 2RQ
> UK
> Tel: +44 11584 66639
> Email: [log in to unmask]
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Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 15:33:51 +0100
From: Cynthia Atwell <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Health Screening
I agree with Greta & Stuart, why is it being done? what are the
benefits to
the Uni and the lecturer? are there implications for COSHH etc?
Otherwise why bother?
Cynthia
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stuart Cooper" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 1:01 PM
Subject: Re: Health Screening
> Generally I would agree with Greta but I would suggest that the
question
you need to ask yourself is for what purpose are you undertaking a
health
screen?
>
> One possible reason for screening for instance could be to meet
your
obligations under COSHH, if the lecturer is exposed to a risk
activity.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Stuart.
>
> > from: Jean Piernicki <[log in to unmask]>
> > date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 12:31:00
> > to: [log in to unmask]
> > subject: Re: Health Screening
> >
> > I am based at a university. Last year aparently a number of
lecturers
> > objected to completing a pre-employment health screening when
they were
> > perhaps only visitng for 5 or 6 lectures but were technically
employees
at
> > that time. Personnel contacted other universities and none
apparently
did
> > this and felt it was "over the top" on the part of our uni. to
do this.
I
> > would be interested to know what other places do? Do you do a
full
screen
> > or a modified one or none?
> > Thank you for your time
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Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 16:20:25 +0100
From: Dawn Knight <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: occ health for teachers - a mystery to me!
I can't get to the bottom of teachers and OH. I, too, am a parent
governor at a local primary school- foundation (previously grant maintained
as opposed to LEA). We had two cases of long term ill health last year and
when I mentioned early referral to OH to get the matter moving, I was told
that teachers had it written in their contracts which meant they couldn't be
referred for the first six months - I thought it was aload of rubbish, but
the head and chair seemed to agree on this point. I assume it is different
for foundation schools as opposed to LEA? Was I just being fobbed off?
Dawn (Knight)
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Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 16:51:51 +0100
From: Greta Thornbory <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: occ health for teachers - a mystery to me!
I'm glad its not just me! I believe the whole of local government OH
is a
mystery to the likes of school governors. Not only am I a school
governor
but I am also an elected local town councillor. Once you get into it
you
discover what a can of worms local gov is and just how many layers (
town,
district and county) you have to go thru to get anything done. Then
you
discover that actually it is all down to central gov who lay down
the law
and no one has any say anyway!
We had a teacher who had the white board fall off the wall onto her
head.
When we asked the county to check all the white boards installed in
other
schools at the same time we were told that someone must have been
fiddling
with it so that it fell off the wall. This in a school with children
aged
4-11!!!!!!!
OH is wonderful - but is it really there for all workers???????
Cheers and have a nice w/e folks
Greta Thornbory
Education & Health Care Consultant
WWW.gtenterprises-uk.com
01235 770156 phone
01235 765797 fax
07778 518 027 mobile
----- Original Message -----
From: Dawn Knight <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: occ health for teachers - a mystery to me!
> I can't get to the bottom of teachers and OH. I, too, am a parent
governor
at a local primary school- foundation (previously grant maintained
as
opposed to LEA). We had two cases of long term ill health last year
and when
I mentioned early referral to OH to get the matter moving, I was
told that
teachers had it written in their contracts which meant they couldn't
be
referred for the first six months - I thought it was aload of
rubbish, but
the head and chair seemed to agree on this point. I assume it is
different
for foundation schools as opposed to LEA? Was I just being fobbed
off?
> Dawn (Knight)
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Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 19:20:00 +0100
From: Dennis Macwilliam <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Health Screening
I agree with Cynthia - the question to be asked is what is hte
purpose of
health screening in this particular context? COSHH would, at first
sight,
not to be an appropriate set of regs - but it all depends what job
the
lecturer was appling for.
Too often I come across firms with health screenng policies firmly
in place
but, when questioned as to why, I get some some puzzled looks. Far
too
often it is done because "we've always done it and it's in our
contracts of
employment - even though they can't point to any job-specific risk.
I suspect that in many cases pre-employment health screening has
been put
in place because their insurers ave insisted upon it in order to
limit
their financial liabilities, and it has later become fashionable to
hang
a "COSHH" label on the process.
Dennis M
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