I agree with what Dave Guest says here. A lot of my, shall we say, "less sophisticated" users found the ENB database was excellent. It seemed to have all the current buzz words like "reflective practice" etc which change every few months and which are therefore harder to find on Cinahl.
Plus the journals indexed nearly all tended to be ones which are easily available - from my library, anyway. A lot of student nurses on placement don't have the time, money or inclination to go to great lengths to obtain articles from here, there and everywhere.
Yes, ENB will be missed.
Christine Reid
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>>> Dave Guest <[log in to unmask]> 04/25/02 09:50am >>>
Jim,
I agree that it was not a great database and other databases offer better
indexing and search tools but for some of our first year students it proved an
ideal introduction to database use. Many of whom progressed to CINAHL when they
were convinced of the benefits of using online sources.
A point I do not think you have considered is what about those nurses etc who
work in the private sector or doctors surgeries. Unless they have access to
"pay for" sources they are now out on a limb.
Any resource that is withdrawn is a loss.
Dave Guest
KGH Library wrote:
> Sorry to voice this but is the loss of the ENB database REALLY a problem?
> WE found that students tended to rely on it, and this concerns me, since I
> felt it was very limited in the scope of what it indexed. I'd prefer they
> used BNI or CINAHL. I'm sure some more informed colleague will enlighten
> me, but was there anything on ENB that is NOT on BNI/CINAHL?
> Regards
> Jim
> Jim Moore, Librarian,
> Goldberg Library, King George Hospital,
> Barley Lane, GOODMAYES, Essex. IG3 8YB
> Tel: (020) 8970 8239
> Fax: (020) 8970 8237
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: McLean, Fiona [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 2:08 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: ENB Database?
>
> Apologies for crossposting
>
> Thanks for that- it fits with the reply I've just had from the NMC (see
> below). Glad its going somewhere, tho concerned re the updating.
>
> I realise I'm coming to *expect* useful NHS-related agencies to shut down-
> first the HEA then this!
>
> Fiona
>
> 'Dear Fiona
>
> Thanks for your e-mail. I understand the Royal College of Nursing (RCN)
> will
> be hosting the Health Care Database following the closure of ENB.
>
> website: www.rcn.org.uk
>
> RCN Headquarters, 20 Cavendish Square. London .W1M 0AB
> tel: 020 7409 3333, fax: 020 7647 3425
>
> Regards
>
> David Brooks
> Online Journalist NMC
> 020 7333 6690
> www.nmc-uk.org'
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Polson [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: 24 April 2002 13:43
> To: 'McLean, Fiona'; [log in to unmask];
> [log in to unmask]
> Subject: RE: ENB Database?
>
> I have just phoned the RCN Library who say there is going to be a press
> release soon on this. It looks as if the RCN will host the site, but it
> does not look like it will be updated as it was in the ENB days.
>
> Rob
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: McLean, Fiona [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: 24 April 2002 09:26
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: FW: ENB Database?
>
> I dont know if this will help... I've forwarded it as it includes the email
> in case any of you want to join in, but I will also forward their reply.
>
> Hoping lis-nursing colleagues know it has moved and can give us a new url.
> Because that would be the best news, but unfortunately not the most
> likely...
>
> Fiona
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: McLean, Fiona
> Sent: 24 April 2002 09:22
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: FW: ENB Database?
>
> The ENB database was a valuable resource for nurses (see below). It doesnt
> appear to be on your website- can you please reconsider the decision to
> drop
> it? Nursing is meant to be an increasingly evidence based profession, and
> this was an important contribution to that.
>
> If it is elsewhere, please give me the url and I will forward it to my
> fellow librarians.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Fiona McLean
>
> British Library
>
> [log in to unmask]
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wentz, Reinhard [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: 24 April 2002 08:28
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: ENB Database?
>
> Dear All,
>
> apparently, the ENB appears to have ceased to exist
>
> http://www.ulcc.ac.uk/ENB_closure.htm
>
> 'Some of the website content (publications and research and development)
> has been incorporated into the Nursing and Midwifery Council's site at
> www.nmc-uk.org '
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Reinhard
>
> R. Wentz, IC LIS
> London
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Guest [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: 23 April 2002 19:40
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: ENB Database?
>
> Has anyone seen it lately?
>
> The old site redirects you to the RCN website but the trail goes cold
> there.
>
> I hope no one has kidnapped it because our first year nursing students
> use it a lot!
>
> Dave Guest
>
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