I think it would be pointless to try to turn CILIP into a trade union: let it concentrate on what it is good at (whatever we think that may
be).  Obviously it will have some things to say about working conditions, quite rightly, but that shouldn't be it's predominant activity.

If you want to be a member of an organisation that will specifically defend pay and conditions why not join an actual trade union?  I'm a
member of Unison for just that reason.   I joined the LA/CILIP for other reasons.

I'd hope there would be more searching criticisms of our 'professional body' than that it doesn't fight hard enough for us to play a bigger
part in an already unsustainable consumer society.

[Stands back and waits for the flames]

Cheers,

Dan

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Georgina Spencer [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: 17 June 2002 10:16
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: (Fwd) RE: PDR marking procedures
>
>
> Absolutely Owen why not?
>
> After all they put salary recommendations on their website but they
> don't actually do anything to support us in reaching those levels.
>
> ------- Forwarded message follows -------
> From:                   Owen C Thomas <[log in to unmask]>
> To:                     "'Georgina Spencer'" <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject:                RE: PDR marking procedures
> Date sent:              Mon, 17 Jun 2002 10:11:28 +0100
>
> I too wonder sometimes what they actually do for us. They
> don't seem to do
> anything to improve working conditions or pay for instance.
>
> Here's a suggestion - how about a camapaign for CILIP to
> affilate to the
> TUC?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Georgina Spencer [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 9:53 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: PDR marking procedures
>
>
> Dear all,
>
> I would just like to support the email that Lisa sent to the list.
>
> I believe many of us feel let down by our so called professional
> body.  We work hard to meet their deadlines and this then appears
> to be for nothing.  I pay my membership fees and have paid the
> money to have my PDR marked (although obviously I will now have
> to wait until next month for this to happen) and what do I get in
> return?  Well, frankly it would appear very little.
>
> I too will receive a pay rise when chartered.  Unfortunately this will
> then mean a higher subscription rate for a service that so far seems
> to be sadly lacking in all respects.
>
> Thank you
>
> Georgina Spencer.
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