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There are 17 messages totalling 440 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. de quincey's "English Mail Coach" and "Morcellus" (2)
2. Review of Michel Faber's book (2)
3. John Bull Periodical (5)
4. "Jeckyll and Hyde" and Victorian science: thanks
5. Thomas Chalmers
6. job opening
7. =?iso-8859-1?q?=22Bishop?= Blougram's =?iso-8859-1?q?Apology=22?=
Pronunciation
8. "Bishop Blougram's Apology"Pronunciation (2)
9. Homophobic terms
10. "Bishop Blougram's Apology" Pronunciation
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Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 01:08:33 -0400
From: David Latane <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: de quincey's "English Mail Coach" and "Morcellus"
Dennis Denisoff wrote:
>
> Who is Morcellus? I haven't found any references to a person with this
name. Considering the possiblity of a typo, I know Cicero wrote a famous
defence of Marcellus, but I've found nothing to suggest that Marcellus himself
was ever described as eloquent or not. Perhaps this is a reference to Cicero
himself, but I don't see how. Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
>
> Best, Dennis
>
How about Plutarch's Marcellus" see the end, for instance, for the
sepulchral bits:
http://classics.mit.edu/Plutarch/marcellu.html
David Latané
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Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 23:32:28 -0700
From: Sheldon Goldfarb <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Review of Michel Faber's book
Further to Doris Meriwether's note, Michel is in Vancouver this week and
read from his new novel (The Crimson Petal and the White) at the Vancouver
International Writers & Readers Festival.
He shared the platform with Sarah Waters, who read from her new novel
(Fingersmith), which is also set in the Victorian period.
Michel made a point of saying, in the discussion period after the readings,
that he had received a lot of help with his research from Victoria. He even
read out a Victoria message about the harvest of 1874.
Sheldon Goldfarb
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Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 04:19:46 -0500
From: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Review of Michel Faber's book
Quoting Sheldon Goldfarb <[log in to unmask]>:
> Michel made a point of saying, in the discussion period after the
> readings, that he had received a lot of help with his research from
> Victoria.
This was also true of one of his appearances at the Edinburgh Book Festival,
where he shared the stage with Sarah Waters and Matthew Sweet (whose
_Inventing the Victorians_ would be on my give-to-people-for-Hanukkah list
about a dozen times if I weren't a poor graduate student). This was before
publication of TCPATW, although Canongate kindly gave me a proof copy (I was
interviewing Michel for a festival paper). Michel did read from the work
and discuss it, though obviously was unable to sign copies.
The acknowledgements section at the end of the book thanks quite a few
Victoria-L people by name. I wish I'd gotten on the list a bit earlier,
now. :)
--Tracey S. Rosenberg
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Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 11:51:24 +0100
From: "Sanders, Michael" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: John Bull Periodical
Dear listmembers,
Is there anyone out there who knows anything about a periodical called 'John
Bull' which was publishing in the UK in the late 1830s/early 1840s? I'm
particularly interested in the general nature of this magazine (news, satire or
general?), its political orientation (tory, whig/liberal, middle-class radical
?) and its intended readership.
Many thanks
Mike Sanders
Lancaster University, UK,
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Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 08:10:44 -0300
From: Robert Morrison <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: de quincey's "English Mail Coach" and "Morcellus"
>Who is Morcellus? I haven't found any references to a person with
>this name. Considering the possiblity of a typo, I know Cicero
>wrote a famous defence of Marcellus, but I've found nothing to
>suggest that Marcellus himself was ever described as eloquent or
>not. Perhaps this is a reference to Cicero himself, but I don't
>see how. Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
De Quincey's reference is to Stefano Antonio Morcelli (1737-1822),
author of <De stilo Inscriptionum Latinarum> (Rome, 1780). De Quincey
also mentions Morcelli in the third instalment of his 1831 <Blackwood's
Magazine> essay on the cantankerous Whig cleric Samuel Parr. TDQ is
discussing epitaphs and observes that, 'in the choice of his Latinity also,
Dr Parr prescribed to himself, for this department of composition, very
peculiar and very refined maxims. The guide whom he chiefly followed,
was not one easily obtained for love or money - <Morcellus de Stylo
Insciptionum>'. Parr himself declared that there was 'no writer on the
subject of inscriptions worthy to be compared with Morcellus'.
Robert Morrison
Department of English
Acadia University
Wolfville, Nova Scotia
B0P 1X0
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Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 09:44:13 -0400
From: David Latane <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: John Bull Periodical
Sanders, Michael wrote:
>Dear listmembers,
>
>Is there anyone out there who knows anything about a periodical called 'John
>Bull' which was publishing in the UK in the late 1830s/early 1840s? I'm
>particularly interested in the general nature of this magazine (news, satire
or
>general?), its political orientation (tory, whig/liberal, middle-class radical
>?) and its intended readership.
>
>Many thanks
>
>Mike Sanders
>Lancaster University, UK,
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>
John Bull was a popular name, and I presume you don't mean Theodore
Hook's _John Bull_ (Tory Sunday paper, 1820-1892), but if you do Samuel
Carter Hall became sub-editor in 1836 when Hook got the New Monthly. He
gives an account of his tenure in Retrospect of a Long Life, p. 70. Lots
more in books on Hook and in standard sources such as Aspinall, Politics
and the Press c.1780-1850. London: Home and Van Thral, 1949.
David Latane
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Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 14:46:32 +0100
From: =?iso-8859-1?q?andrew=20kerrigan?= <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: John Bull Periodical
Michael Sanders asks:
"Is there anyone out there who knows anything about a
periodical called 'John
Bull' which was publishing in the UK in the late
1830s/early 1840s? I'm
particularly interested in the general nature of
this magazine (news, satire or
general?), its political orientation (tory,
whig/liberal, middle-class radical
?) and its intended readership."
I am currently researching the works of Samuel Butler
(1835-1902) and have also stumbled across a reference
to 'The John Bull'. In the preface to second edition
of his theological satire(?) 'The Fair Haven' (1873),
Butler has cause to mention this periodical. He does
so in the context of describing the kind of
publication which may have interpreted his work as an
earnest confession of faith. Butler had been
suspected of satirising the Church in his Erewhon and
was keen to avoid any interpretation of 'The Fair
Haven' as significant of his return to the orthodox
fold. The reference is as follows:
"I feared The Guardian, The Record, The John Bull,
&c., lest they should suggest that from a bear I now
turned bull with a view to an eventual bishopric.
Such insinuations would have impaired the value of The
Fair Haven as an anchorage for well meaning people."
In this context, one would assume the magazine to have
orthodox affiliations. Moreover, 'The Fair Haven' is
specifically concerned with evangelicalism. However,
I too would greatly appreciate more information, not
only on 'The John Bull', but also the contemporary
allegiances/readerships of the other publications
mentioned.
Hope this helped somewhat, and thanks in advance for
any information.
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Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 12:19:27 -0400
From: "Eileen M. Curran" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: John Bull Periodical
Mike--
In addition to sources already given, see Alvin Sullivan's British Literary
Magazines: The Romantic Age, 1789-1836, pp203-207. It gives a good
overview of John Bull, which started as a satiric, vituperative, even
libelous paper in support of George IV, by 1841 "had become a relatively
sedate literary paper which appealed to middle- and upper-class readers"
but always "remained politically conservative and ultra-Protestant." The
article also provides publishing history and a bibliography.
Eileen
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Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 09:40:42 -0700
From: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: John Bull Periodical
Michael Sanders,
I can offer some fragments of information on _John Bull_, and one bit on the
_Record_. _John Bull_ was founded by Theodore Hook, aka "Theodore Flash,"
in 1820. In _The Essential Fleet Street_, Ray Boston says that "he launched
the original _John Bull_ as a Sunday paper from 11 Johnson's Court in 1820,
and continued it ('scandalous' to some, 'patriotic to others) until his
death 21 years later." Boston refers the reader to _Old Fleet Street_, in
the _London Recollected_ Series by G. W. Thornbury.
In William Beach Thomas's _Story of the Spectator_, the paper is described
as being arch-conservative and pugnacious. During the Reform battles of
1831-2, the Tory Charles Greville deplored the fact that all the press were
lined up on the side of reform except _John Bull_: "_John Bull_ alone
fights the battle, but _John Bull_ defends so many indefensible things that
its advocacy is not worth much." Later, Thomas notes that the _Morning
Post_ was also prominent in the ranks of reaction, "'ready to barricade the
flood-gates of democracy, the mighty and irresistible torrent of which
threatens, if unchequed, to sweep away the altar and the throne'; while
beside it stood _John Bull_, with sleeves rolled up for doing the dirty
work." Thomas also notes that, among the eleven weeklies in 1832, _JB_ had
the highest circulation.
The _Guardian_ that Andrew inquired after is probably a weekly that ran from
1846-1951. Copies are available at several US and UK libraries. The
_Record_ ran from 1828-1948, at which time it was absorbed by the _Church of
England Newspaper_ and continued as the _Church of England Newspaper and
Record_. I'm guessing that the _Gurdian_, too, was probably a church
weekly, but without having a chance to look at some copies I'd be hesitant
to say for sure. Again, several US and UK libraries have copies of the
_Record_ available.
Richard D. Fulton
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Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 19:59:45 +0200
From: neil davie <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: "Jeckyll and Hyde" and Victorian science: thanks
My thanks to Stephen Arata, Andrew Mangham and Esma Pearcey for their =
suggestions on recent work linking J & H and Victorian psychology.
Best wishes,
Neil
Neil Davie, Universit=E9 Paris 7, Paris, France.
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Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 20:07:13 +0200
From: Clzire Puglisi Kaczmarek <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Thomas Chalmers
I have already been in touch with the list regarding the same subject : =
Thomas Chalmers
I have huge difficulties in finding Chalmers' bibliography. I have to =
travel to Scotland to get some books.=20
I admit that going to Scotland is fantastic but given my university job, =
it is not easy.
There are hardly any books in france.
Could anyone suggest me a website or else?
The books are far to expensive=20
Thanks for your help
Claire Puglisi Kaczmarek
Universit=E9 de Toulon et du var
le Garde
83000 France =20
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Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 12:46:20 -0500
From: "Hughes, Linda K" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: job opening
I've sent along an announcement of a search for an external department chair at
TCU. Applications from senior Victorianists are welcome; please feel free to
get in touch if you have any questions.
Linda K. Hughes, TCU
Chair, Professor of English
Tenure-track position of Department Chair, rank of Full Professor(field open).
Candidates should have strong leadership and administrative abilities; a
commitment to working collaboratively with faculty and administration; and a
record of distinguished teaching and research in the discipline. The
Department of English at TCU is composed of seventeen faculty members
(including three endowed positions), as well as six lecturers and instructors.
The department is committed to an integrated approach to the study of
literature and rhetoric & composition and offers B.A., M.A., and Ph.D.
programs. Salary is competitive and based on experience and qualifications.
Send a letter of application and vita to: Richard Leo Enos,
Chair([log in to unmask]), Department of English, Texas Christian University, Box
297270, Fort Worth, TX 76129.
Candidates seeking to be interviewed at the MLA Convention must submit
applications by November 25, 2002. Invitations to interview at the MLA
Convention will be extended in early December. For all other candidates, the
submission deadline is January 15, 2003. TCU has a Carnegie Doctoral Intensive
classification and the Department of English has a national ranking of 89th in
its category by the National Research Council. TCU is an independent,
co-educational university of approximately 8000 students located within the
greater Fort Worth/Dallas metroplex of more than 4.5 million people. TCU is an
EO/AA employer.
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Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 16:35:16 -0400
From: Heather Morton <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: =?iso-8859-1?q?=22Bishop?= Blougram's =?iso-8859-1?q?Apology=22?=
Pronunciation
A number of us were wondering how to pronounce Blougram. Any insights?
Thanks,
Heather Morton
University of Virginia
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Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 16:44:58 -0500
From: "Doris H. Meriwether" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: "Bishop Blougram's Apology"Pronunciation
I've always assumed blawh grum, but I've heard blow grum.
Doris Meriwether
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Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 15:53:52 -0500
From: Geoffrey Clarke <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Homophobic terms
Can anyone enlighten me on the use of the words "queer" and "gay" as
having a homosexual or at least homophobic connotation from circa 1890.
I know that the Marquess of Queensberry wrote in a 1 November 1894 letter
around the events of the libel trial that Wilde was part of a group of "Snob
Queers". Richard Ellmann, Oscar Wilde (London: Pelican, 1987) 402.
The only reference that I could find elsewhere was in OED to a 1948
reference by W H Auden in English Studies, August, 1948 294 where he says
"an underground cottage frequented by the queer."
"Gay" originally meant female prostitution so it cannot be a large step
to make the gender change to mean homosexuality (can it?).
Geoffrey Clarke
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Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 00:17:45 +0100
From: K Eldron <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: "Bishop Blougram's Apology" Pronunciation
Given the eccentricities of British pronunciation, it's probably 'Bloom'!
Cheers
K Eldron
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Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 18:07:42 -0500
From: David Havird <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: "Bishop Blougram's Apology"Pronunciation
A prof of mine, who'd studied with Jerome Buckley, always said
"bluegrum."
DH
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David Havird
Associate Dean of the College
Department of English
Centenary College of Louisiana
Shreveport, LA 71134-1188
http://personal.centenary.edu/~dhavird/
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