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There are 15 messages totalling 546 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. "Going Native" (3)
2. Reprint of Stead's Maiden Tribute (2)
3. Where is Nelly Dean's husband?
4. New Sensation Novel Discussion Group (2)
5. Queen Victoria's mail / Charles Phipps c. 1851
6. Apology
7. aspirin
8. The Green Carnation (2)
9. UPDATED CFP: 2003 British Women Writers Conference (10/31/02;
3/20/03-3/23/03)
10. libel and slander?
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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 06:55:42 +0100
From: Susan Hoyle <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: "Going Native"
Reading this phrase here reminds me of what I suspect is its most usual
current usage, in the UK at least, although my example comes from the
recent past. The relevant government minister would appoint this or
that member of the Great and Good to this or that post, in the
confidence that said appointee would do what the government wanted.
When this didn't happen, when instead the appointee adopted the mores
and attitudes of the institution they had been sent to bring under
control, they were referred to by the British Civil Service as having
gone native. This was the case with several chairmen of British Rail
(RIP), to my knowledge.
I realize that this is not a Victorian example, but I thought that a
mention of its modern use might help to deconstruct its
nineteenth-century use.
Susan Hoyle
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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 08:56:15 +0100
From: Lee Jackson <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Reprint of Stead's Maiden Tribute
Its on the Internet ... see works by Stead at the excellent:-
http://www.attackingthedevil.co.uk/
Lee
At 16:29 17/10/02 -0700, you wrote:
>Does anyone know if a modern reprint exists of Stead's Maiden Tribute of
>Modern Babylon, perhaps in a collection of Victorian journalism? A
>Worldcat search turns up only the 1885 reprint.
>
>Thanks in advance for any help.
>
>Dr. Lisa Surridge
>Associate Professor
>Department of English
>University of Victoria
>P.O. Box 3070
>Victoria BC
>V8W 3W1
>
>Phone: 250-721-7246
>Fax: 250-721-6498
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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 08:58:19 +0100
From: Chris Willis <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Reprint of Stead's Maiden Tribute
Hi!
> Does anyone know if a modern reprint exists of Stead's Maiden Tribute of
> Modern Babylon, perhaps in a collection of Victorian journalism?
Sections of it were reprinted in the anthology edited by Sally Ledger and
Roger Luckhurst a few years ago. Sorry I don't have the title to hand but
it should be easy enough to find.
All the best
Chris
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Chris Willis - London Metropolitan University
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"Every gun that is fired, every warship launched, every rocket fired
signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not
fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. The world in arms is not
spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius
of its scientists, the hopes of its children."
Dwight D. Eisenhower, 1953
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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 09:27:10 +0100
From: Chris Willis <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Where is Nelly Dean's husband?
Hi!
> That we English-speakers announce our marital status every time we
> introduce ourselves is unusual.
And one of the joys of having a PhD is that if any sexist scumbag asks "Are
you Miss or Mrs?" one can reply snootily, "Dr, actually!" :-)
All the best
Chris
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Chris Willis - London Metropolitan University
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"Every gun that is fired, every warship launched, every rocket fired
signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not
fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. The world in arms is not
spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius
of its scientists, the hopes of its children."
Dwight D. Eisenhower, 1953
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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 12:33:21 +0100
From: Andrew Mangham <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: New Sensation Novel Discussion Group
Dear All,
The Ellen Wood discussion forum has now changed its name and its scope. =
Now called the Sensation Novel group, I would like to tempt discussions =
of broader subjects related to the sensation phenomenon; thus including =
novelists like Braddon, Reade, Dickens, Broughton, Ouida and, of course, =
Wood.
Please consider joining either via the URL below (and Yahoo's advert =
happy interface) or you can email me and I'll add your email address.
All the best,
Andrew Mangham.
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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sensation_novel
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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 09:26:56 -0300
From: rnemesva <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: New Sensation Novel Discussion Group
Hi Andrew,
I tried to join the Sensation Novel group through the Yahoo link, but
couldn't seem to make it work (probably my fault, not the link's). In any
case, could you please add me to the list. Thanks.
Richard
Richard Nemesvari (Chair)
Associate Professor
Department of English
St. Francis Xavier University
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Subject: New Sensation Novel Discussion Group
Dear All,
The Ellen Wood discussion forum has now changed its name and its scope. Now
called the Sensation Novel group, I would like to tempt discussions of
broader subjects related to the sensation phenomenon; thus including
novelists like Braddon, Reade, Dickens, Broughton, Ouida and, of course,
Wood.
Please consider joining either via the URL below (and Yahoo's advert happy
interface) or you can email me and I'll add your email address.
All the best,
Andrew Mangham.
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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sensation_novel
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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 08:54:54 EDT
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Subject: "Going Native"
Paul Barlow wrote:
<< In the context of Arctic exploration this debate followed the deaths on the
Franklin expedition. When it was suggested that the Brits might learn a
thing or two from the natives, the admiralty responded that survival was
less important than extending and displaying 'British' identity. >>
The issue about going native might have been given more attention after
Franklin---wasn't everything?---but it was an issue long before Franklin.
John Ross survived three winters (was it?) in the Arctic most successfully
because he went slightly native. But nobody seemed to pick up on it or to
reason why he had such low levels of scurvy. I believe there was some
discussion at this time, before Franklin, about "going native." Ross did
search for Franklin in a most disastrous expedition. I don't believe he went
native enough then.
But since I read a book about *all* Arctic explorations in the Victorian age,
I am thoroughly confused and probably shouldn't question Mr. Barlow.
Matt Demakos
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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 09:01:51 -0400
From: "Dr. Russell A. Potter" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Queen Victoria's mail / Charles Phipps c. 1851
I'm looking for information on two odd questions --
1) I understand that, in modern times, the British royal family
enjoys the privilege of free post on official matters -- what in the
U.S. we'd call "franking." But I was wondering, how old is this
practice -- specifically, would it have been available in 1851? Of
so, what sort of post mark or sign would appear on official letters
from the Queen in order that the letter would receive this privilege?
2) As of May 1851, who was the Queen's private secretary? I had
thought at first that it was Sir Charles Phipps, but some sources
seem to imply that he was primarily Prince Albert's private secretary.
With thanks in advance,
Russell Potter
Rhode Island College
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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 10:20:43 -0300
From: rnemesva <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Apology
Well, I swore I would never do it, and for years I managed to avoid it, but
finally I slipped and fell. My apologies for sending a private message to
the list as a whole.
Richard Nemesvari (Chair)
Associate Professor
Department of English
St. Francis Xavier University
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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 10:49:41 -0500
From: BEm004176B Adcrafters <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: "Going Native"
In response to Sally Mitchell's query, these texts might be of some interest
on the subject of "going native":
Ahmed, Sara. _Strange Encounters: Embodied Others in
Post-Coloniality_. NY: Routledge, 2000.
Rawson, Claude Julian. _God, Gulliver and Genocide: Barbarism and the
European Imagination, 1492-1945_. NY: Oxford UP, 2001.
Ahmed's book has a section called "Going Strange, Going Native." Rawson's
also has a section called "Going Native."
Good luck,
Diana Ostrander
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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 08:58:37 -0500
From: Tracy Nectoux <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: aspirin
May I join Sheldon Goldfarb in praise of Victoria? I joined the
listserv last week, and am thrilled at all the information and knowledge
shared here. Being a member of this listserv is going to be a great
pleasure.
I should introduce myself. I'm a recent graduate of the University of
St. Andrews in Fife, Scotland. My M.Phil. concentrated on Elizabeth
Gaskell. The large Unitarian scholarship during the Victorian era is
what I found most interesting in my studies, though this was not the
only focus of my thesis.
I am currently living and teaching in Champaign, Illinois. Thank you
again, for this impressive and delightful listserv.
Peace,
Tracy
Tracy Nectoux, Instructor
Parkland College
Dept. of English & Critical Studies
2400 W. Bradley Ave.
Champaign, IL 61821
217-353-2626
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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 18:48:13 +0100
From: Esma <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: The Green Carnation
Greetings list-members!
Does anyone know if there has been a recent(ish) reprint of Robert Hichen's
'The Green Carnation'?
I have had no success with the usual sources such as Amazon, and I cannot
find a record of the original publication in the British Library catalogue.
Any suggestions gratefully received.
Esma Pearcey
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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 13:32:22 -0500
From: Christina Shaner <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: UPDATED CFP: 2003 British Women Writers Conference (10/31/02;
3/20/03-3/23/03)
11TH ANNUAL BRITISH WOMEN WRITERS CONFERENCE
=E2=80=9CGendering Philosophy: Body, Mind, and Culture in 18th and 19th =
Century Discourse=E2=80=9D
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March 20-23, 2003
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UPDATE: Keynote speakers will include Tricia Lootens (University of Geor=
gia) and Laura Brown (Cornell University).
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The conference invites participants and speakers to cross disciplinary an=
d scholarly boundaries. In questioning the gendering of discourse in phi=
losophy and contemporary theorizations of women=E2=80=99s writing, we aim=
to broaden our understanding of the history of ideas via 18th and 19th c=
entury modes of thinking. =20
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Hosted by TCU, the conference will be held at the Radisson Plaza Hotel in=
Fort Worth, Texas, USA. =20
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While scholarship on all aspects of 18th and 19th century British women w=
riters is welcome, we are particularly interested in explorations of topi=
cs such as the following:
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SCIENCE AND MEDICINE:
Developing Disciplines of Evolutionary Theory and Anthropology
Professionalization of Medicine
Midwifery and/or Wet-nursing
British Empiricism
Display of the Body as Scientific Object =E2=80=93 Vivisection, Mummies, =
Cadavers, Etc.
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REPRESENTATIONS OF THE BODY:
Carnivalesque Bodies
Motherhood and the Service Body
Fashion as Politics
Passing and Performance
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SEXUALITY:
Representation and Regulation of Sexuality
Mythos of Morality, e.g. Pornography, Angel of the House
Classifying Gender / Classifying Sex
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CULTURE OF SENSIBILITY:
Intellectualism vs. Sensibility
Gendering of Sensibility
Feminine Writing / Femininity and Authorship
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THE =E2=80=9CDEVIANT=E2=80=9D WOMAN:
Is She Revolutionary, Complicit, or Pointless?
Sexual Others
Criminals and Prostitutes
=E2=80=9CMasculine=E2=80=9D Women and Free Thinkers
Motherhood and the Construction of Gender
Madwomen Outside the Attic
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LITERARY PRACTICE:
Gender in the Literary Marketplace
Text and Textual History
Travel Writing and the Luxury of Movement
Urban Literature and/or the Confined Writer
Political Rhetoric and Public Speaking
Essentialism and the Emergence of the Subject as Author
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GENRE STUDIES AND THE READER:
Periodical Press and Access to Text =20
Marketing Texts / Identifying and Targeting Audiences
Advertising / Text as Commodity
Literary Salons and Communal Interpretation
Closet Dramas
Women in the Production of =E2=80=9CFact=E2=80=9D / Producing Science, Hi=
story, Etc.
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RACE, RELIGION, AND THE OTHER:
Rhetoric of Degeneration
Racial and Sexual Paranoia in the Declining Empire
=E2=80=9CFamily Values=E2=80=9D and the Loss of State Authority
Empire of Race =20
Leaving the Other Behind / Racist Rhetoric in Women=E2=80=99s Discourse
Protestantism and Colonial Authority
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WOMEN IN THE ACADEMY:
Cost of Recovering Literary Women
The De-Valorization of Feminism
Political Responsibility and the Woman Writer
Problematizing the Canon
Whose Feminism? Essentialism, Constructivism, and the (Masculine) Subjec=
t
Teaching Women Writers / What Are Our Responsibilities?
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PHILOSOPHICAL LITERATURE / LITERARY PHILOSOPHY:
Narrative and/or Poetics as Philosophical Discourse
Aestheticism, Romanticism, and the Gendered Subject
Women as Philosophers
Publics, Politics, and Humanitarian Ideals
=20
UPDATE: Send 1-2 page abstracts for papers and/or proposals for panels (=
including cover sheet with name, mailing address, and email) by OCTOBER 3=
1st, 2002, to the following address:
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Melissa Blackman
Department of English
TCU Box 297270
Fort Worth, TX 76129
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-OR-
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Email abstracts (including name and mailing address) to: [log in to unmask]
=20
Visit the 2003 British Women Writers Conference website at: www.eng.tcu.=
edu/BWWC =20
=20
Thank you for your interest!
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Christina Shaner
2003 BWWC Steering Committee
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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 20:52:22 +0100
From: George Simmers <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: The Green Carnation
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Subject: The Green Carnation
> Greetings list-members!
> Does anyone know if there has been a recent(ish) reprint of Robert
Hichen's
> 'The Green Carnation'?
> I have had no success with the usual sources such as Amazon,
That invaluable resource www.abebooks.com offers thirty second-hand copies,
at prices ranging from $4.50 to $193.
______________________________________________
George Simmers
Snakeskin Poetry Webzine is at
http://www.snakeskin.org.uk
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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 19:29:45 -0500
From: David Finkelstein <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: libel and slander?
Dear Colleagues,
I'm currently doing some basic research on the comparative history of libel
and slander in the U.S. and U.K., and wondered if I could call on the list's
collective wisdom to point me in the direction of:
1) potential sources that can offer a solid overview or commentary on
the topic, and
2) examples you know of important cases brought to court over libel
and/or slander issues throughout the 19th-20th centuries. (Or even in
centuries previous?)
When discussing this issue in Britain most sources point to Oscar Wilde and
the Marquess of Queensberry trial in the late 19th century as a defining
moment in libel and slander trial history. Are there any other good
examples in U.K. and the U.S. people know of that would be relevant? I have
a faint knowledge regarding such 20th century U.S. cases as Falwell vs.
Flynt and Westmoreland vs. CBS, but not enough to allow a substantial
understanding of the issues involved during that period. Nor do I have
enough information on Victorian and Edwardian examples.
Any suggestions very welcome. Thank you for your help in advance,
David Finkelstein
Media and Communication Department
Queen Margaret University College, Edinburgh
Scotland
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