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Subject: VICTORIA Digest - 19 Jul 2002 to 20 Jul 2002 (#2002-200)
There are 7 messages totalling 210 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Bessie Parkes's Surrey wastrels
2. Help with quotations
3. Introduction and Beardsley query
4. Introduction and Pre-Raph quotes (2)
5. first occurrence of "New Woman"
6. From a friend of Barbara Schmidt
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Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 05:14:59 -0400
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Subject: Re: Bessie Parkes's Surrey wastrels
Thanks to Chris and Lesley who were heading in the
right direction and especially to Sheila: spot on. I'm
delighted.
Kathleen McCormack
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Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 10:23:23 +0100
From: K Eldron <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Help with quotations
> I wash and anoint myself, and change my raiment
> --adapted quotation from II Samuel 12.20: "Then David arose from the
> earth, and washed, and anointed himself, and changed his apparel..."
Or from Ruth 3.3? "Wash thyself therefore, and anoint thee, and put thy
raiment upon thee.. [and get thee down to the floor: but make not thyself
known unto the man, until he shall have done eating and drinking.]"
K Eldron
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Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 11:33:23 +0100
From: K Eldron <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Introduction and Beardsley query
It could be a constructed quotation. [1] In Greek mythology, Artemis and
Apollo were twin gods. [2] My (early 20th century) edition of Brewer's
Dictionary has the following under Africa:
Africa semper aliquid novi affert. "Africa is always producing some
novelty." A Greek proverb quoted (in Latin) by Pliny, in allusion to the
ancient belief that Africa abounded in strange monsters. [cf the "Here be
monsters" legend allegedly found on the blank spaces of old maps of Africa]
Alternatively, given that Beardlsey portrays himself in this drawing as a
sort of tiny caliph cowering in a huge bed, could it be a quotation from
Galland's translation of the Arabian Nights? (I think the other famous
French translation, that of Mardrus, post-dates the drawing by five years or
so).
K Eldron
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Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 12:36:57 -0500
From: "Kristin F. Smith" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Introduction and Pre-Raph quotes
My name is Kristin Smith and I am in Wyoming. I am finishing up a lengthy
paper comparing present-day English singer/songwriter Ian McCulloch with
Dante Gabriel Rossetti.
I lost much of my eyesight about a year ago, and can only read things off
the computer (or audiobooks). I am looking for help with the following
quotations:
?picture-manufacturing....a little bit of all that is pretty, a little sun
and a little shade, a touch of pink, and a touch of blue,?.? -- John Ruskin
?The good Lord gave us green, and it?s a damn fine colour!? -- John Millais
?Truth to Nature?? What?s the use of that? There?s no money in it? -- John
Millais
?I used to paint rather well in those days,? -- John Millais (said of his
early, Pre-Raphaelite work).
"If this is poetry, it is very easy to write." -- Willam Morris
Back in the mid-70s, I copied these out of various books onto
notecards. A few years ago, they made it from the notecards to the
computer, but without the citations. Now, naturally, I have lost the cards.
I am trying to source the quotes, and would appreciate any information
anyone has.
Thanks,
Kristin F. Smith
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Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 22:06:48 +0100
From: Michel Faber <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Introduction and Pre-Raph quotes
Kristin F. Smith wrote:
<color><param>7F00,0000,0000</param>> I am looking for help with the follo=
wing
> quotations:
>
> =93picture-manufacturing....a little bit of all that is pretty, a little=
sun
> and a little shade, a touch of pink, and a touch of blue,=85.=94 -- John
> Ruskin
</color> This comes from 'Modern Painters', written in 1847.
The quote in context is:
"We have too much picture-manufacturing, too much making up of
lay figures with a certain quantity of foliage, and a certain quantity
of sky and a certain quantity of foliage, and a certain quantity of sky
and a certain quantity of water, -- a little bit of all that is pretty, a =
little
sun and a little shade, -- a touch of pink, and a touch of of blue..."
Best wishes,
Michel Faber
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Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 20:38:35 -0230
From: Elizabeth Miller <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: first occurrence of "New Woman"
In the course of working on the DLB volume on Dracula, I have hit a =
little snag. I am hoping someone on the List can help.=20
Exactly when did the term "New Woman" originate? According to Glennis =
Byron, in an annotation in her edition of Dracula (Broadview 1998), the =
term was coined by Sarah Grand in The Heavenly Twins (1893). Michelle =
Tusan ("Inventing the New Woman" in Victorian Periodicals Review, Summer =
1998) claims that it first appeared in The Woman's Herald on 17 August =
1893.=20
Ledger & Luckhurst (The Fin de Siecle, Oxford 2000) state that the word =
"entered the vocabulary as a popular term in 1894" in articles by Sarah =
Grand and "Ouida" in the North American Review. Sos Eltis (article in J =
M Riquelme's edition of Dracula, Bedford/St Martin's 2002) claims that =
Grand "coined the term" in the North American Review.
So, which is it?
Elizabeth
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Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 22:22:42 -0500
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Subject: From a friend of Barbara Schmidt
I have been asked by the family of Barbara Schmidt to cancel her various
list memberships.
Will the owner of this list please remove Barbara's name.
Barbara died after battling ovarian cancer on July 18.
If anyone has any questions, please feel free to email me at
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Alex Babione
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