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There are 12 messages totalling 266 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Dickens' will
2. Novels about London (2)
3. Dickens's Will
4. George Eliot and Theology -- Thanks
5. George Eliot on homosexuality
6. Significance of the healthy body (3)
7. Geroge Eliot on homosexuality
8. etext - "Twice Round the Clock" 1859 George Sala
9. re. Significance of the healthy body
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Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 04:04:14 EDT
From: Judith Flanders <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Dickens' will
Thanks to Lillian Nayder, Eileen Curran and Keith Wright for their answers to
my query. Thanks too, to Jack Kolb, for the address of the Dickens mailbase
-- I've been meaning to join for ages, and this has shamed me into doing it.
Best
Judith Flanders
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Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 07:14:17 EDT
From: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Novels about London
If the book does not have to be written in Victorian times, then how about
*London* by Edward Rutherford? It was written in 1997. Warning: it is big
and fat but it does cover London's history from the very beginning till about
1945. I thoroughly enjoyed it.
Matt Demakos
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Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:50:34 -0700
From: Beppe Sabatini <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Dickens's Will
>I would like to know the date that Dickens wrote his will -- i.e., not the
>date that he died and it was executed, but when he had actually written it.
The will states:
"In witness whereof I the said Charles Dickens, the testator, have to this
my last Will and Testament set my hand this 12th day of May in the year of
our Lord 1869."
Dickens died on 9 June 1870. You can find the will in an appendix to _The
Life of Charles Dickens_, the famous biography by John Forster. It is
probably also in The Letters of Charles Dickens (the Pilgrim Edition), vol.
12, the new final volume in the series, but I haven't read that one yet.
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Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 23:12:44 +1000
From: Lesa Scholl <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: George Eliot and Theology -- Thanks
Many thanks to Eric Clarke and Holly Forsythe for their leads into =
George Eliot's work in this area.
Lesa Scholl
University of Queensland
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Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:24:49 -0400
From: Eric Clarke <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: George Eliot on homosexuality
One other resource to add to Holly Forsythe's: Katherine Stockton's
terrific _God between their lips : Desire Between Women in Irigaray, Brontë,
and Eliot_ (Stanford UP, 1994).
Eric Clarke
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Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:46:02 +0000
From: jenny willis <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Significance of the healthy body
<html><div style='background-color:'><DIV>Dear All</DIV>
<DIV>I'm researching the treatment of deformity from around 1840 to 1900 and
want to approach it through the significance Victorians invested in the
'normal' healthy body and its supposed reflection of healthy morality and
consequently social stability. Does anyone know of some good primary
sources which place emphasis on a well-formed, healthy body as a metaphor for a
healthy social body? </DIV>
<DIV>Thanks</DIV>
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Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:32:16 -0400
From: James Eli Adams <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Significance of the healthy body
A very good place to start would be Bruce Haley, The Healthy Body and
Victorian Culture (Harvard, 1978).
Best,
James Eli Adams
Department of English
Cornell University
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Ithaca, NY 14853
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>Dear All
>I'm researching the treatment of deformity from around 1840 to 1900 and
>want to approach it through the significance Victorians invested in the
>'normal' healthy body and its supposed reflection of healthy morality and
>consequently social stability. Does anyone know of some good primary
>sources which place emphasis on a well-formed, healthy body as a metaphor
>for a healthy social body?
>Thanks
>Jenny Willis, Birkbeck College
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Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:52:33 -0400
From: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Geroge Eliot on homosexuality
>Yisrael,
I doubt that George Eliot's antagonism toward Pater
resulted from his approval of homosexuality. Although I
know of no direct references, any Sunday afternoon at
the Priory might have included the following close
friends: Edith Simcox, Mary Finlay Cross, Eleanor
Cross, Oscar Browning, and/or Maria Congreve. Her
repeated efforts to convince Edith Simcox to get married
makes her seem a little dim on the subject, I admit. But,
on the other hand, she failed to condemn Oscar
Browning when he got into trouble concerning his
students. I'm convinced she meant to create
Gwendolen Harleth as indifferent to men on the basis
of her sexual orientation.
Kathleen McCormack
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Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:53:16 -0400
From: Susanna Ryan <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Significance of the healthy body
Dear Jenny,
One place to start in terms of secondary materials would be Erin =
O'Connor's _Raw Material: Producing Pathology in Victorian Culture_ =
(Duke, 2000). She looks at disease (cholera and breast cancer), =
monstrosity, and prosthetics as metaphors productive of new kinds of =
social identity.
Susanna Ryan
Department of English
University of Michigan
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Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:29:41 -0400
From: Jamie Ridenhour <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Novels about London
I would also suggest any of Michael Moorcock's London novels, especially
_Mother
London_. For Victorian or Edwardian era titles, try Arthur Machen's _The Three
Imposters_ and Chesterton's _The Man Who Was Thursday_.
Jamie Ridenhour
English Department
University of South Carolina
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> If the book does not have to be written in Victorian times, then how about
> *London* by Edward Rutherford? It was written in 1997. Warning: it is big
> and fat but it does cover London's history from the very beginning till about
> 1945. I thoroughly enjoyed it.
>
> Matt Demakos
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Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 19:45:43 +0100
From: lee jackson <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: etext - "Twice Round the Clock" 1859 George Sala
It's been a little quiet on the www.victorianlondon.org etext front
recently, but the site has been slowly but surely expanding in its usual
muddled way.
I am pleased to announce, moreover, that the full text of George Augustus
Sala's "Twice Round the Clock" is now available in all its verbose glory.
http://www.victorianlondon.org/publications/sala.htm
regards,
Lee
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Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:02:31 -0400
From: Todd Avery <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: re. Significance of the healthy body
A key primary source would be Leslie Stephen's THE SCIENCE OF ETHICS
(1882). Also, on "moral" deformity (individual and social, as well as
connections between individual physical health and social health), see
Stephen's attacks on Walter Pater's aestheticism, and other of his
(Stephen's) ideas on morality in a series of four CORNHILL MAGAZINE essays
he wrote between 1875 and 1882: "Art and Morality" (1875); "Thoughts on
Criticism, by a Critic" (1876); "The Moral Element in Literature" (1881);
and "The Decay of Literature" (1882).
In all five pieces, one finds abundant gems:
"Nature wants big, strong, hearty, eupeptic, shrewd, sensible human beings;
and would be grossly inconsistent if she bestowed her highest reward of
happiness upon a bilious, scrofulous, knockkneed saint, merely because he
had . . . highly cultivated sympathies." --THE SCIENCE OF ETHICS.
All best,
Todd Avery
Department of English
University of Massachusetts Lowell
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