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Subject: VICTORIA Digest - 21 Jan 2002 to 22 Jan 2002 (#2002-23)
There are 16 messages totalling 538 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Crinolines (was Corsets)
2. FW: Abstract Deadline
3. Broadview *Wuthing Heights* (was texts-and-contexts editions)
4. Elizabeth Anna Hart and Menella Smedley (2)
5. VR subscription request
6. apology
7. tutors (3)
8. texts-and-contexts editions
9. Thanks--photo of Victoria with Indian attendants
10. Broadview and Wuthering Heights
11. The need for order and self-discipline in childhood
12. Kaleidoscopes (2)
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Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 07:55:59 -0000
From: Paul Lewis <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Crinolines (was Corsets)
There is a piece by Wilkie Collins called 'Give Us Room!' published in
Household Words 13 February 1858 XVII No.412 pp193-196 and reproduced in _My
Miscellanies_ (1863).
It is not, he tells us "another diatribe against the crinoline" which he
calls "one of the existing institutions of the this country" but then goes
on to ridicule both its size - making parties crowded and hot - and the
costs they caused, both in damage to the dresses from a single party and
also forcing men's elbows into the food..
Sadly there is no e-text of it so it is hard to get hold of but it is both
amusing and very much of its time about this strange fashion.
Paul
Paul Lewis
web www.paullewis.co.uk
tel 07836 217311
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From: VICTORIA 19th-Century British Culture & Society
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Sent: 21 January 2002 21:31
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Subject: Re: Crinolines (was Corsets)
This seems an appropriate time to quote from one of the letters that the
publisher John Blackwood wrote to his contributor Anne Mozley when he
was preparing to publish her paper on "Dress".
"Some years ago I had a curious dress case with the women employed in
the Printing Office who persisted in coming in gigantic unshapely crinolines
until at last a poor girl was caught by the skirt a& dragged under a
printing
machine. The foreman when he heard the scream, had the presence of
mind to rush & stop the engine, & strange to say the girl escaped unhurt.
It
was the most miraculous mistake I ever saw as you will understand if you
ever saw a printing machine. If she had not been a very slim girl or the
engine had not been instantly stopped, she would have been literally broken
to pulp. One would have thought this was warning enough, but in spite of
the Foreman's orders they all appeared in full crinoline next day & I had to
send over positive instructions to dismiss the whole lot before they would
take them off. Now they strip them off when they arrive, & one corner of
the Printing Office looks like a decayed pawnbrokers shop with heaps of
seedy bombazine." (National Library of Scotland: Blackwood Papers:
Private Letter Book: Ms30361 Oct 1863 - Dec 1865 Pp. 260-62.)
Ellen Jordan
University of Newcastle
Australia
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Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:43:17 -0000
From: "Sanders, Michael" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: FW: Abstract Deadline
Dear All,
With apologies for any cross-posting.
Mike Sanders
> FINAL REMINDER - The Abstract Deadline for "Wordsworth's 'Second Selves'
> "(Lancaster University 23rd-26th July) is *JANUARY 31st, 2002*
> Send proposals to [log in to unmask] / Sally Bushell, Dept. of English,
> Bowland College, Lancaster University Lancaster LA1 4YT
>
>
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Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 10:35:47 -0400
From: "[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Broadview *Wuthing Heights* (was texts-and-contexts editions)
I should perhaps let Don Lepan, or some other representative
of Broadview Press, respond to this, but I have been
involved with the company in producing two editions, and I
don't think it's a violation of professional ethics, now
that Beth Newman's *Wuthering Heights* has been officially
commissioned, to mention that I was one of the evaluators of
her proposal.
Broadview is indeed going to produce two editions of
Bronte's novel, since Christopher Heywood's is (as suggested
below) controversial, and thus perhaps not completely
suitable for an undergraduate class, although it might make
for some lively discussion in a graduate seminar. I would
just note that Prof. Newman provided an excellent proposal,
and will no doubt produce a very strong text.
Richard Nemesvari
Department of English
St. Francis Xavier University
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John P. Farrell wrote:
> Like David Latane I'm confused. Are there to be two
> editions of Wuthering Heights by Broadview? Is the second
> to make up for the extraordinarily tendentious nature of
> Christopher Heywood's edition? I hope so.
> As a Victorianist, I've been glad to learn more about the
> slave trade history in Liverpool and the many other
> interesting historical facts that have emerged in numerous
> recent publications on Wuthering Heights. But the fact is
> that there's no evidence whatever in Bronte's text that
> Heathcliff is of African descent. Heywood's edition is a
> failure by any test of scholarly responsibility. It's
> obvious that Nelly equates his dark skin with some
> potentially exotic quality in Heathcliff's background.
> But there's a long leap from that to Heywood's
> conclusions. And he never explains such awkward textual
> moments as the following (from near the end of chapter 3):
> Heathcliff stood near the entrance, in his shirt and
> trousers; with a candle dripping over his
> fingers, and his face as white as the wall behind him
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Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 11:33:00 +0000
From: Jan Marsh <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Elizabeth Anna Hart and Menella Smedley
Can anyone assist with details of these two writers beyond the
titles of their books? this is a query on behalf of a friend who
hopes to republish and publicise their works and is seeking
background biographical info
thanks
Jan Marsh
RLF Fellow, Queen Mary, University of London
room 3.12 tel 7882 3389
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Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 10:01:31 -0600
From: Christopher Keirstead <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: VR subscription request
Dear Susan:
Could you check on the status of my subscription to Victorian Review? I
think I may have been inadvertently left off of your mailing list, and
am thus still waiting to receive the special issues on autobiography and
photography--both of which I am very interested in. My check was
mailed in October 2000, and I think it was paid out a few months later.
My mailing address is Dept. of English / 9030 Haley Center / Auburn
University / Auburn, AL 36849.
Thank you.
--Chris Keirstead
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Assistant Professor
Department of English
Auburn University
Auburn, AL 36849
Phone: (334) 844-9077
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Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 10:11:20 -0600
From: Christopher Keirstead <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: apology
I knew it was just a matter of time. Apologies for sending a private
message to the entire list. --CK
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Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 12:02:35 -0500
From: Dara Rossman Regaignon <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: tutors
I am seeking literary representations of tutors, specifically private
tutors (rather than the Oxbridge variety). My hunch is that tutors were
something of an aristocratic holdover by the mid nineteenth century, but
I would be interested in texts that complicate that hunch.
Charlotte Bronte includes a discussion of the tutor's position in
_Shirley_ in which she presents it as carrying the same disadvantages as
the governess' (invisibility, liminality). But it seems to me that, at
least in earlier centuries, becoming a tutor for an aristocratic family
was often professionally useful, in part because it carried the promise
of future patronage. That kind of advancement was coming under
criticism by the very early nineteenth century, and tutors were
doubtless decreasingly necessary with the increased quality of public
schools.
My thanks,
Dara
--
Dara Rossman Regaignon
Princeton Writing Program
110A Notestein Hall
Princeton University
Princeton, NJ 08544
609/258-7341
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Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:12:32 -0800
From: "Margot K. Louis" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: texts-and-contexts editions
I include the contexts in the list of readings I (officially) _expect_ my
students to do, and make a point of referring to them, quoting from them,
directing students to the appropriate pages, etc., during lectures and
discussions. I also try to structure my lectures so that the "contexts"
sections I've recommended are themselves contextualized. The Broadview
_Odd Women_ edited by Arlene Young strikes me as a model of what this sort
of edition ought to be--except for its typos, and I must say that
proofreading seems to be Broadview's weakest point. I wouldn't use the
Broadview _Jane Eyre_ or Heywood's Broadview _Wuthering Heights_ in the
classroom precisely because of the tendentiousness that David Latane's
mentioned--unless I were teaching also a text about slavery for which the
background material in those editions might actually be useful.
As to whether the students read the contexts at all, let alone
whether they realize that there is more to read, that depends very much on
the individual student, but the instructor can certainly emphasize that the
contexts should be regarded as a jumping-off point for further research,
not as sufficient in themselves (at grad. level especially). Maybe if the
material is very much excerpted one could propose assignments which
involved reading the _whole_ of the text from which the excerpt is taken.
Margot K. Louis
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Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 12:26:52 -0500
From: Beth Sutton-Ramspeck <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Thanks--photo of Victoria with Indian attendants
Dear VICTORIAnists,
Many thanks from me and from my colleague David Adams for your help several
months ago when he was looking for a photograph of Queen Victoria with her
Indian attendant(s). He located a wonderful 1896 shot of the Queen,
seated, flanked by attendants Mustafa and Chida. The image, which appears
on the cover of the latest issue of _Modern Fiction Studies_ (47.4--Winter
2001), illustrates David's article ""Remorse and Power': Conrad's Korain
and the Queen" (pp. 723-52).
Best Wishes,
Beth Sutton-Ramspeck
Beth Sutton-Ramspeck
Assistant Professor of English
Galvin 410A
The Ohio State University at Lima
4240 Campus Drive
Lima, OH 45804
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Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:33:41 -0800
From: Barbara Tilley <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: tutors
I can think of two tutors in literature right off hand. One is in Sarah
Grand's The Heavenly Twins (1893) - a male tutor. And the other is in
Radclyffe Hall's The Well of Loneliness (1928) - a female tutor (not a
governess!)
Best,
Barbara Tilley
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>From: Dara Rossman Regaignon <[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: tutors
>Date: Tue, Jan 22, 2002, 9:02 AM
>
> I am seeking literary representations of tutors, specifically private
> tutors (rather than the Oxbridge variety). My hunch is that tutors were
> something of an aristocratic holdover by the mid nineteenth century, but
> I would be interested in texts that complicate that hunch.
>
> Charlotte Bronte includes a discussion of the tutor's position in
> _Shirley_ in which she presents it as carrying the same disadvantages as
> the governess' (invisibility, liminality). But it seems to me that, at
> least in earlier centuries, becoming a tutor for an aristocratic family
> was often professionally useful, in part because it carried the promise
> of future patronage. That kind of advancement was coming under
> criticism by the very early nineteenth century, and tutors were
> doubtless decreasingly necessary with the increased quality of public
> schools.
>
> My thanks,
> Dara
>
> --
> Dara Rossman Regaignon
> Princeton Writing Program
> 110A Notestein Hall
> Princeton University
> Princeton, NJ 08544
>
> 609/258-7341
> [log in to unmask]
>
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Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 13:16:35 -0500
From: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: tutors
On Tue, 22 Jan 2002, Dara Rossman Regaignon wrote:
> I am seeking literary representations of tutors, specifically private
> tutors (rather than the Oxbridge variety). My hunch is that tutors were
> something of an aristocratic holdover by the mid nineteenth century, but
> I would be interested in texts that complicate that hunch.
Prime complicator, if by "aristocratic holdover" you mean that tutors were
generally used only in aristocratic circles: Harold Biffen in Gissing's
_New Grub Street_.
From Chapter X (as given in the online version offered by Mitsuharu
Matsuoka, http://www.lang.nagoya-u.ac.jp/~matsuoka/GG-NGS-2.html):
The teaching by which he partly lived was of a kind quite unknown
to the respectable tutorial world. In these days of examinations,
numbers of men in a poor position -- clerks chiefly -- conceive a
hope that by 'passing' this, that, or the other formal test they
may open for themselves a new career. Not a few such persons
nourish preposterous ambitions; there are warehouse clerks
privately preparing (without any means or prospect of them) for a
call to the Bar, drapers' assistants who 'go in' for the
preliminary examination of the College of Surgeons, and untaught
men innumerable who desire to procure enough show of education to
be eligible for a curacy. Candidates of this stamp frequently
advertise in the newspapers for cheap tuition, or answer
advertisements which are intended to appeal to them; they pay from
sixpence to half-a-crown an hour -- rarely as much as the latter
sum. Occasionally it happened that Harold Biffen had three or four
such pupils in hand, and extraordinary stories he could draw from
his large experience in this sphere.
Mario Rups
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Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 12:42:54 -0800
From: Beth Newman <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Broadview and Wuthering Heights
VICTORIAnistis:
I'd like to respond to the queries about Broadview's producing another =
edition of _Wuthering Heights_ so closely on the heels of Christopher =
Heywood's. =20
One of the things Professor Heywood has done is restructure the text =
with new chapter and section breaks, basing this restructuring on =
careful attention to the text and to the circumstances of its =
publication. Broadview Press is making this restructured edition =
available as an original contribution to Bronte scholarship. But it =
also wished to have on its list a version of the text with the structure =
that has been known to readers since the novel's publication. =20
To offer my own perspective: Christopher Heywood's argument for =
restructuring the parts and chapters seems to me intriguing and =
persuasive, in part because it accords in some ways with my experience =
of the way the novel "naturally" divides itself--or more accurately, the =
way I've found myself dividing it into coherent units when I teach it. =
I am less persuaded by the radical re-reading of the novel he proposes =
in his introduction, and will aim in my edition to provide what I think =
of as a more open-ended approach to the "meaning" of the text. It's =
what I would want myself for my undergraduate classes. But I will =
certainly encourage my graduate students this semester to look at the =
restructured text and at the way the Heywood edition contextualizes the =
novel, not least because I want my students to think about how received =
texts and readings of texts get produced--and contested.
Beth Newman
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Beth Newman=20
Associate Professor &=20
Director of Undergraduate Studies =20
Department of English
Southern Methodist University
Dallas, TX 75275
phone: 214-768-2955 =20
fax:214-768-1234=20
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Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 14:59:57 -0500
From: Cynthia Turner Camp <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Elizabeth Anna Hart and Menella Smedley
Menella Bute Smedley is in Leighton and Reynolds' Victorian Women Poets
anthology with a brief biographical headnote. Unfortunately, the
bibliography doesn't say where she found her info. But it's a place to
start.
Cynthia Turner Camp
University of Ottawa
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Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 15:09:09 -0500
From: Cynthia Turner Camp <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: The need for order and self-discipline in childhood
One last suggestion...
The biography of Alice Meynell, written by her daughter Viola Meynell,
comments not only on the unstructured way Alice and her sister were raised,
but more specifically includes Viola's own views of the sometimes offhand
ways in which she and her siblings were raised by Alice. I believe June
Badeni's more recent biography of Meynell draws connections between the ways
in which Alice was raised and the ways she raised her own children.
Meynell's many articles on children and childhood --including caring and
raising them -- add yet another dimension.
Cynthia Turner Camp
University of Ottawa
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Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 10:36:33 +1000
From: Kate Horgan <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Kaleidoscopes
>
> Dear Victorianists,
I'm writing a thesis investigating Sir David Brewster's invention of the
kaleidoscope- looking at the instrument itself and the entry of the word
into language. I'm after information about the reception of the
Kaleidoscope around 1818: prices, any accounts of people buying them, or
any other tidbits however miscellaneous.
Also, if any texts using the word come to mind, I'd be interested to hear.
Many thanks, Kate.
>
>
>
>
>
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Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 00:53:37 -0000
From: Sondeep Kandola <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Kaleidoscopes
Baudelaire's description of '[t]he Painter of Modern Life' as a =
'kaleidoscope endowed with consciousness, which with every one of its =
movements presents a pattern of life, in all its multiplicity, and the =
flowing grace of all the elements that go to compose life' might be =
useful for your study...though perhaps not so useful when wandering the =
streets of the modern metropolis!!=20
Best,
Sonny Kandola,
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Birkbeck College.
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