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Topics of the day:
1. Fred Burnaby (was Blunt/Ouida (2)
2. Deadline extended: NEH Summer Seminar, "The Reform of Reason"
3. William John Bankes (3)
4. Blackwood's Edinburgh Magazine (2)
5. DORIAN GRAY and Social Class Issues
6. Introduction+Social env/illness
7. Social environment and illness
8. gratitude from coast to coast
9. Sensation Fiction Course (4)
10. Victorian divorce (thanks)
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 03:55:37 EST
From: Judith Flanders <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Fred Burnaby (was Blunt/Ouida
Thanks for your responses. When I mentioned the post to a friend last night
he added that Burnaby was known to be able to hold a billiard cue level by
the tip, extended, with a straight arm. (Apparently this takes enormous
strength. I took his word for it!)
However, I did make one horrible mistake on the post, which I must correct
here. The Tissot portrait of Burnaby is in the National Portrait Gallery
(London), on display. It can be found on their website, www.npg.org.uk. The
link to the page is
http://www.npg.org.uk/live/search/person.asp?search=ss&sText=Frederick+Burn
aby
&LinkID=mp00652
As an ex-employee I am mortified!
Best
Judith Flanders
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<< Subj: Re: Fred Burnaby (was Blunt/Ouida
Date: 07/03/2002 21:11:44 GMT Standard Time
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I was fascinated by your information on Fred Burnaby - I've admired the
wonderful Tissot portrait for years without realising that the sitter
(lounger!) was quite such a well-known character.
By one of those splendid coincidences that perk life up, I'd read your
e-mail just before going up to have a bath. Choosing at random a book to
read I picked on a 1957 Saturday Book I bought a few weeks ago in Oxfam
(the SBs were published annually for years after World War II,
miscellanies of anecdote, reminiscence, fine arts, poetry etc). I nearly
dropped it in the water when, flicking through it, I came across "Burnaby
of the Blues", a 10 page article, with illustrations, on Captain
(eventually Colonel) Fred (by Philip Henderson). The man really was one
of those larger-than-life (in every sense except the vocal: he was 6 foot
four 'in his socks', reputed to be the strongest man in Europe but had a
thin and piercing voice) Victorian adventurers, driven presumably by an
abnormally low boredom threshold to have a go at anything from solo
ballooning to the Russians to standing for Parliament (one of his rare
failures). Not hard to imagine romantic novelists of the time finding
him an irresistible source (wonder, too, if his adventures haven't more
recently been a part inspiration for George MacDonald Fraser's Flashman).
He also had a third claim to posterity: he was co-founder of 'Vanity Fair'.
Regards.
Ben Tierson
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 00:05:41 -0800
From: Carol Poster <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Deadline extended: NEH Summer Seminar, "The Reform of Reason"
>The postmark deadline has been extended to 15 March 2002 for:
>
>NEH Summer Seminar, June 30-August 11, 2002
>Subject:The Reform of Reason: Rhetoric and Religion in Nineteenth Century
>Britain
>Co-Directors: Jan Swearingen and Carol Poster,
>Locations: St. Deiniol's Library, Hawarden, Wales and Cambridge, England
>Stipend (provided by NEH to cover expenses): $3700
>
> Our readings and discussions will focus on how
>nineteenth century religious debates affected changes in rhetorical
>curricula. Anglicans debated among themselves and with other denominations
>about the nature of reason, and about its uses. These debates reshaped the
>curriculum in the closely related subjects of logic, moral philosophy,
>rhetoric, and homiletics. In examining these topics, we will bring an
>interdisciplinary perspective to archival materials, rare book and
>manuscript collections that allow us to see how many areas of nineteenth-
>century culture were affected by underlying religious and rhetorical
>theories. Unlike many existing studies of nineteenth-century religion, on
>the one hand, or rhetoric, on the other, our Seminar focuses specifically
on >how they influenced one another, leading to significant revisions in
>concepts of human reason and rhetorical theory alike.
>
>For more information, please visit:
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>http://www-english.tamu.edu/pers/fac/swearingen/
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>or contact Jan Swearingen ([log in to unmask])
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Carol Poster
English Department
Florida State University
Tallahassee FL 32306
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 10:15:25 -0500
From: Ivy Bigelow <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: William John Bankes
Hi!
I was just wondering--does anyone know much about someone named
William John Bankes? He was an archaeologist and a friend of
Byron's, I think.... I'd appreciate any info anyone has.
Thanks,
Ivy Bigelow
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 11:09:52 EST
From: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: William John Bankes
Greetings,
I am sure others know much more than I about Bankes but, briefly, he was a
wealthy young man of artistic tastes. Alas, he had not one but two arrests
for homosexual conduct. Following the second for exposing himself in Green
Park, he left England to live in European exile. He continued to collect
and sent many of the pieces home where they form the basis of the art on
display at his family seat at Kingston Lacy near Wimborne Minster.
My source is Montgomery Hyde's "The Trials of Oscar Wilde" in which Bankes
is mentioned in the chapter, "The Prevalence of Male Homsexuality in
England." (Page 255 in my paperback copy.)
Tom Hughes
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 17:07:59 +0000
From: Shif <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: William John Bankes
Ivy Bigelow wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I was just wondering--does anyone know much about someone named
> William John Bankes? He was an archaeologist and a friend of
> Byron's, I think.... I'd appreciate any info anyone has.
Those who are fortunate enough to have been able to visit Studland
beach, arguably one of the finest in the south of England, and owned by
the National Trust, will surely have come across the Bankes Arms Hotel
(and pub!). The Bankes family is well-known round the whole area.
There are over 50 Google entries on "William John Bankes" (including one
from the National Trust) at least some of which should start you well on
the way.
Good hunting,
Malcolm
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 11:30:22 -0800
From: Jennifer Phegley <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Blackwood's Edinburgh Magazine
I thank Eileen Curran for pointing out that I mistakenly said that
Blackwood's was published "illegally" in America. What I meant was
that, according to my memory of what Barnes says, it was pirated.
There were no laws against literary piracy until 1891.
However, upon returning to my notes, I discovered that my memory was
incorrect anyway. Barnes states that John Jay, who had gained
exclusive rights to reprint Blackwood's in America advised another
publisher in 1851 that "in consequence of the fatal rivalry of
eclectic magazines such as Harper's," which provided "choice
selections from all British miscellanies," single magazine reprints
were no longer viable (44).
Harper's did not pay its pirated contributors during its first few
years. Under intense pressure from other American magazines that
were struggling to pay their mostly American contributors and were
not coming close to competing with Harper's profits, Harper's slowly
began to curtail its blatant piracies and to pay contributors. The
magazine highly publicized its payment of $1,700 to Dickens for the
rights to serialize Bleak House.
Despite Harper's frequent reprinting from Dickens' Household Words
without remuneration, the "Editor's Easy Chair" for January 1852
speaks out against the poor treatment Dickens received from the
American publishing industry: "We could honor Dickens with such
adulation, and such attention as he never found at home; but when it
came to the point of any definite action for the protection of his
rights as an author we said to Mr. Dickens, with our hearts in his
books, but with our hands away from our pockets, 'We are our own
lawmakers and must pay you only in --honor!'" It seems that piracy
was becoming more and more distasteful based on arguments that it
would prevent America from developing its own national literature and
prevent American authors from making a decent living. Harper's made
an effort to change with the changing attitudes.
Jennifer Phegley
University of Missouri-Kansas City
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 12:12:54 -0500
From: Angela Bryant <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Fred Burnaby (was Blunt/Ouida
and forgive the brevity of my response! i'm in the midst of my phd comp
exams! angela bryant
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 11:36:34 -0500
From: "Stephen E. Severn" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: DORIAN GRAY and Social Class Issues
Greetings All,
Long time reader, first time poster. I'm in the process of
putting together a dissertation that focuses on cases where members of
disparate social class come together in late-19th Century British
narrative fiction. Can anyone recommend articles or books that have
examined at length the relationship between Sibyl Vane and Dorian Gray?
Thanks in advance.
Best,
Steve Severn
University of Maryland, College Park
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 09:17:13 -0800
From: Narin Hassan <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Introduction+Social env/illness
I just wanted to introduce myself as a new member to the Victoria list--My
research is on the relationship between Victorian medicine and colonialism
(I explore women's travel writing and fiction). I am currently a Visiting
Asst. Professor in the English dept. at James Madison University where I
teach 19th-century literature and women's studies.
Just to add to the suggestions on Social Environment and Illness--Janet
Oppenheim's book, Shattered Nerves. Doctors, Patients and Depression in
Victorian England may be helpful. She has a chapter on "Nerve Tonics and
Treatments" which discusses the variety of treatments doctors used to treat
depression and neurasthenia. My sense is that Victorian and Edwardian
doctors used these terms very broadly, so that "depression" could cover a
variety of ailments, and therefore doctors could make a broad range of
suggestions for treatment--there do seem to be many suggestions in medical
manuals from the later Victorian period that women (and men) make sure they
receive plenty of fresh air and live in houses with good ventilation to
prevent illness.
--
Narin Hassan
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 12:29:15 -0600
From: "Doris H. Meriwether" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Social environment and illness
Isabella Bird was apparently a semi-invalid when she accepted medical
advice to travel. She first left her home in Scotland for a visit to
Canada. She then spent the bulk of her remaining life romping
about--China, Japan, Hawaii, and the US Rocky Mountains, to name a few
locations--and writing books about her travels. Elizabeth Barrett also
comes to mind as a candidate--though perhaps not reacting to medical
advice. But she sprang from her invalid's couch to elope with Browning
and depart with him to a life in Italy.
Doris Meriwether
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 17:03:56 -0500
From: Herbert Tucker <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: gratitude from coast to coast
My thanks to listmembers who generously responded, in past weeks, with text
ideas for my course on transatlantic travel writing form the 19th
century. Most of the stuff is not readily available in paperback, but I'll
definitely be casting our lot for a week with Irving's Geoffrey Crayon,
Gent.
Herbert Tucker
Department of English
219 Bryan Hall
University of Virginia 22904-4121
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 17:13:11 EST
From: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Sensation Fiction Course
I'm designing a syllabus for a graduate course in Victorian sensation
fiction and would appreciate any suggestions from list members regarding
primary and secondary texts. I'm considering using _Lady Audley's Secret_
and _East Lynne_ and would like to include pieces by Ouida and Wilke
Collins, but I'm undecided about which texts. Have any listmembers had
successful experiences teaching particular texts? Any recommendations for
scholarly criticism would also be appreciated, although I'd prefer to
assign shorter critical selections so that the reading assignments could
focus on the primary texts.
Thanks,
Shari Hodges
University of Mississippi
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 23:20:53 +0100
From: neil davie <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Victorian divorce (thanks)
Many thanks to Angela Bryant, Ginger Frost, Maureen Martin, Gail Savage, =
and Mary Ann Tobin for their suggestions for readings on "Victorian =
Divorce".
Best wishes,
Neil Davie
Universit=E9 Paris 7, Paris, France ([log in to unmask])
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 16:38:30 -0600
From: Bill Morgan <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Sensation Fiction Course
I bet you'll be overwhelmed with suggestions for this one.
If you want to venture outside the usual boundaries of the genre
and into the work of someone not typically associated with sensation
fiction, try Hardy's *Desperate Remedies*, his first published novel--and a
cracking good read complete with illegitimate children, attempted
abduction, fires, midnight excavations, etc. He wrote it in response to
advice from George Meredith (acting as reader for Chapman and Hall) to
write something with a more complicated plot (See chapter IV of *The Life
and Work of Thomas Hardy*).
cheers,
Bill Morgan
At 05:13 PM 3/08/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>I'm designing a syllabus for a graduate course in Victorian sensation
fiction >and would appreciate any suggestions from list members regarding
primary and >secondary texts. I'm considering using _Lady Audley's Secret_
and _East >Lynne_ and would like to include pieces by Ouida and Wilke
Collins, but I'm >undecided about which texts. Have any listmembers had
successful experiences >teaching particular texts? Any recommendations for
scholarly criticism would >also be appreciated, although I'd prefer to
assign shorter critical >selections so that the reading assignments could
focus on the primary texts. >
>Thanks,
>
>Shari Hodges
>University of Mississippi
>[log in to unmask]
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 22:57:21 -0000
From: Paul Lewis <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Blackwood's Edinburgh Magazine
Harpers pioneered the technique, with Dickens and Collins and with many
other British authors, of paying the author a fee for the right to have
corrected proofs sent to them for simultaneous, or almost so, publication in
the US and the UK. Thus there are two valid versions and readings of Wilkie
Collins's novels and there is still dispute about which version had
priority. The novel published serially in Harper's was still pirated both in
periodicals and in book form.
Copyright law was in its infancy but as is still happening today
countries -put their own economic interests before any international
agreement or law.
Paul
Paul Lewis
web www.paullewis.co.uk
tel 07836 217311
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[mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Jennifer Phegley
Sent: 08 March 2002 19:30
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Blackwood's Edinburgh Magazine
I thank Eileen Curran for pointing out that I mistakenly said that
Blackwood's was published "illegally" in America. What I meant was
that, according to my memory of what Barnes says, it was pirated.
There were no laws against literary piracy until 1891.
However, upon returning to my notes, I discovered that my memory was
incorrect anyway. Barnes states that John Jay, who had gained
exclusive rights to reprint Blackwood's in America advised another
publisher in 1851 that "in consequence of the fatal rivalry of
eclectic magazines such as Harper's," which provided "choice
selections from all British miscellanies," single magazine reprints
were no longer viable (44).
Harper's did not pay its pirated contributors during its first few
years. Under intense pressure from other American magazines that
were struggling to pay their mostly American contributors and were
not coming close to competing with Harper's profits, Harper's slowly
began to curtail its blatant piracies and to pay contributors. The
magazine highly publicized its payment of $1,700 to Dickens for the
rights to serialize Bleak House.
Despite Harper's frequent reprinting from Dickens' Household Words
without remuneration, the "Editor's Easy Chair" for January 1852
speaks out against the poor treatment Dickens received from the
American publishing industry: "We could honor Dickens with such
adulation, and such attention as he never found at home; but when it
came to the point of any definite action for the protection of his
rights as an author we said to Mr. Dickens, with our hearts in his
books, but with our hands away from our pockets, 'We are our own
lawmakers and must pay you only in --honor!'" It seems that piracy
was becoming more and more distasteful based on arguments that it
would prevent America from developing its own national literature and
prevent American authors from making a decent living. Harper's made
an effort to change with the changing attitudes.
Jennifer Phegley
University of Missouri-Kansas City
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 14:19:50 -0800
From: Carol Poster <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Sensation Fiction Course
>I'm designing a syllabus for a graduate course in Victorian sensation
fiction >and would appreciate any suggestions from list members regarding
primary and >secondary texts. I'm considering using _Lady Audley's Secret_
and _East >Lynne_ and would like to include pieces by Ouida and Wilke
Collins, but I'm >undecided about which texts. Have any listmembers had
successful experiences >teaching particular texts? Any recommendations for
scholarly criticism would >also be appreciated, although I'd prefer to
assign shorter critical >selections so that the reading assignments could
focus on the primary texts.
I did a graduate course on non-canonical Victorian women writers a few years
ago -- I discussed it in:
Carol Poster, "Canonicity and the Campus Bookstore: Teaching Victorian Women
Writers." The Feminist Teacher 11:1 (Spring/Summer 1997): 1-9.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Carol Poster
English Department
Florida State University
Tallahassee FL 32306
e-mail: [log in to unmask]
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 20:40:05 -0500
From: Pamela Gilbert <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Sensation Fiction Course
I would recommend Under Two Flags, which was out in Oxford paperback--it
may be out of print now. Take a look also at Rhoda Broughton's _Cometh
Up as a Flower_, which MAY still be in print. Cheers! Pamela Gilbert
On Fri, 8 Mar 2002 [log in to unmask] wrote:
> I'm designing a syllabus for a graduate course in Victorian sensation
fiction > and would appreciate any suggestions from list members regarding
primary and > secondary texts. I'm considering using _Lady Audley's
Secret_ and _East > Lynne_ and would like to include pieces by Ouida and
Wilke Collins, but I'm > undecided about which texts. Have any listmembers
had successful experiences > teaching particular texts? Any
recommendations for scholarly criticism would > also be appreciated,
although I'd prefer to assign shorter critical > selections so that the
reading assignments could focus on the primary texts. >
> Thanks,
>
> Shari Hodges
> University of Mississippi
> [log in to unmask]
>
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