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Chris
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Chris Burton, [log in to unmask] on 11/12/2002
On Wed, 11 Dec 2002 12:22:40 -0000, Shaun Naidoo wrote:
>Debbie, I am Marian not Shaun!
>Marian Naidoo ----- Original Message -----
>From: "St Thomas Medical Group Research Unit" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Wednesday,
>December 11, 2002 11:45 AM Subject: Re: Risk and complex systems
>
>
>Shaun
>
>Nice to know that you are still out there on the list!
>
>I am not sure if you have got the last 3 emails I have sent you, but
>your invoice for £275 for a place at the complexity conference last
>September still hasn't been paid. I would be grateful if you could
>send a cheque by return made payable to St Thomas Medical Group
>Research Unit Conference Account.
>
>Many thanks Debbie Reinhold
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Shaun Naidoo <[log in to unmask]> To: <COMPLEXITY-PRIMARY-
>[log in to unmask]> Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 10:44 AM
>Subject: Re: Risk and complex systems
>
>
>>Hi, I haven't been contributing to the dialogue as yet but I am
>>following it with interest. I am a research fellow in the health
>>service and also work with my partner Shaun (who has contributed)
>>developing creativity within a complexity framework. My work is
>>primarily with healthcare teams as part
>of
>>the modernisation agenda. I am just in the final weeks of writing
>>up my thesis for a doctorate in education which is also about
>>creativity and complexity. For this I have used the metaphor of a
>>trampoline (I know like most metaphors it has its limits!). For me
>>this embraces both the connectivity and the tension but also the
>>potential of it's creative
>energy.
>>I am looking forward to both meetings especially the opportunity to
>>share
>my
>>experience of research and complexity.
>>Marian ----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Tim Wilson" <[log in to unmask]> To: <COMPLEXITY-PRIMARY-
>>[log in to unmask]> Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 10:13 AM
>>Subject: Re: Risk and complex systems
>>
>>
>>>>All the more reason to pencil the research methods Tufton on 28th
>>>January into your diary now while I finalise the programme
>>>
>>>I hadn't picked up on this- there is a meeting on 16th isn't
>>>there?
>>>
>>>
>>>>So the swiss cheese is joined up. (Wanted new metaphor -
>>>>preferably
>>>alive) Is this new? I can't recall now whether I came to this
>>>conclusion myself or whether I read it somewhere first, but it is
>>>important and not widely enough stated.
>>>
>>>I think quite a few folks are dropping the Swiss cheese model. A
>>>web under tension (i.e. it transmits movement and vibration) is
>>>often used in complex systems and I think something on those lines
>>>might be better for this kind of model, but...
>>>"All models are useful, but all models are wrong" Kurt Lewin Field
>>>Theory in Social Science; Selected Theoretical Papers Greenwood
>>>Press 1975
>>>
>>>>Are there medical incident databases that one can analyse?
>>>
>>>Yes, the defence organisations have them. Soon there will be the
>>>NPSA reporting database, that would be better (still highly
>>>selected cases but less so than defence databases). They would
>>>probably like some analysis to develop the model of what happens
>>>when harm occurs.
>>>
>>>Tim
>>>
>>
>>
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