Dear all
Thanks to all those who responded to my query.
Here I am fwd the replies I received.
Now a days I am working with SAS Graphs and IML programming which has very powerful features.
More than that ODS feature in reporting is more powerful than any other reporting tools around (my guess).
Thanks again
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My Question
Can anybody points us why SAS not SPSS to buy for a Pharma company.
A friend of mine asked me this question and I know some advantages of using
SAS over SPSS.
But to convince his boss he needs more justification.
Any help or comments
Thanks
Venkat
Anne Rosemary Reply
I'm sure you will et lots of replies, but one strong
argument could be
that this is the package that is used by most large pharmaceutical
companies.
I have used both SPSS and sas, and have found that sas is much more
powerful - it will do more thing than SPSS.
But of course it depends what you want to do.
SPSS is used mainly by social science and psychology researchers and
sas more by other types of scientists.
Also there is a lot more to sas than just stat analysis. It has
powerful data management capablilites for example.
Hope this helps
Rosemary TATe
Paul Warren reply
As far as im aware and what ive heard from my clients and line managers i
work with her is my explaintion im not saying this is gospal....
SAS is the Authorised statistics software by the fda ( food and drugs
Authorities ) due to the compliance and regulatory nature of the pharms
sector and the regulations that are involded with computer systems
validation this make life just alot easier... ( but not cheaper )
If i can be of any further assistance please feel free to email me
directly...
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Antonellini Alessandro reply
As far as I know, an electronic submission to the US FDA (Food and Drug Administration) requires the analysis database using SAS transport files formats. Besides in their Guidelines several times are mentioned the SAS datasets as data files.
I don't know if exists a document (probably yes) by the FDA where it is mentioned that SAS System is the preferred statistical package, but I wouldn't try something of different... it could be a mess!
Regards
Alex
Nick Longford reply
Because other Pharma companies buy SAS ... Probably the regulatory authorities prefer reports
prepared in/by SAS. But the apt summary of the attitudes is
"Millions flies like it, so it must be good."
With SAS/SPSS a lot is done for you by the software, but the software dictates the inferential
agenda, not the analyst.
Nick Longford
De Montfort U., Leicester
Robert Rush Reply
For a Pharma company hoping to submit data to the US Food & Drugs
Administration (FDA), there is little choice unless they want to do all the
analysis twice in both SPSS and SAS. The FDA have very specific data
requirements. They don't only ask for SAS export files, they also tell you
what format the data listings have to be in! The FDA website has the
requirements . . .
. . . which is why virtually every Pharma company uses SAS for virtually all
its work.
If you talk to the FDA first, you can use other package for specialist
analyses e.g. SOLAS for multiple imputation. But I wouldn't want to use
anything other than SAS without talking the to the FDA first.
I suspect your friend must work for a very new Pharma company which has
never submitted data to a regulatory agency before.
Regards
Krys
Krys Kelly Reply
For a Pharma company hoping to submit data to the US Food & Drugs
Administration (FDA), there is little choice unless they want to do all the
analysis twice in both SPSS and SAS. The FDA have very specific data
requirements. They don't only ask for SAS export files, they also tell you
what format the data listings have to be in! The FDA website has the
requirements . . .
. . . which is why virtually every Pharma company uses SAS for virtually all
its work.
If you talk to the FDA first, you can use other package for specialist
analyses e.g. SOLAS for multiple imputation. But I wouldn't want to use
anything other than SAS without talking the to the FDA first.
I suspect your friend must work for a very new Pharma company which has
never submitted data to a regulatory agency before.
Regards
Krys
Steve Messenger reply
The only real reason is that the US Federal Drug Administration dictated
years ago that they would only accept evidence from clinical trials if it
had been calculated using SAS. They will not accept results using SPSS.
Provided you do not wish to enter the US market with your products you do
not need SAS.
Graham reply
PROC COMPARE as a starter for 10.
Temporary datasets in SAS give much greater flexibility too.
Sven Buli reply
Venkata
Why would you even use SAS or SPSS, when you should use S-Plus from
http://www.insightful.com/
best regards and greetings from Norway
sven buli
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