Beat me to it!
It all depends on the purpose for which the change is made. Birmingham has
moved units between cost centres where the focus of the activity has
changed. Although they were maintained at the same price group as it was a
move from CC11 to CC14. So it wasn't for funding purposes.
But with restructuring taking place we will have to alter cost
centres/departments mapping (and hence price groups), if only to maintain
the current level of standard resource, if not to increase it.
The current example here is the merger of Geography and Earth Sciences.
Which are both returned to CC28 and CC14 respectively, but are weighted as
PG C and PG B respectively. Clearly the cost of the activity doesn't drop
instantaneously on a merger.
With respect to the modern languages changes: recheck the grant letters from
'00 and '01. There were lines for "Addnl funds due to HEFCE adjustments" and
"Addnl funds due to French PG Change" resepectively (at least there were
here). I was under the impression that the HEFCE change to PG meant that the
actual base grant was adjusted up at full resource, as well as the standard
resource being increased by the change. Otherwise there is little to be
gained, apart from a) appearing more expensive, and b) getting higher
resource if a succesful ASN is made against the subject area.
Dave
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Dr Dave Radcliffe,
Senior Planning Officer
Planning Section, Planning & Policy Development
Academic Office, University of Birmingham
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From: Malcolm Edwards [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 12 July 2002 11:53
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Subject: Re: Changing a course's price group
Of course, it is worth bothering if its an area in which you wish to expand,
since you can then bid for additional numbers at the higher rate!
Malcolm Edwards
Brian Oldham <[log in to unmask]> on 12/07/2002 11:20:57
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Liz,
I've no direct experience - but if the intention is to get additional
HEFCE funding, I wouldn't hold out too much hope. This follows from our
experience at King's when in successive years German and Spanish,
followed by French, were reclassified by HEFCE as being in price group C
rather than D. As we were still within the plus or minus 5% of standard
resource allowed for Teaching, no funding adjustment was forthcoming.
Best wishes,
Brian
On Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:03:04 +0100 Liz Halls <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Does anyone have any experience of successfully submitting a case to the
> HEFCE for changing the price group of a set of courses following changes
to
> the content of those courses? I'd be grateful for any info.
>
> Liz Halls
> Planning Officer (HE Funding)
> The Open University
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Brian Oldham
Management Data Analyst
Finance Department
King's College London
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