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Subject:

Please Help: Caculating some kind of standard deviation

From:

Intikhab Alam <[log in to unmask]>

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Intikhab Alam <[log in to unmask]>

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Mon, 8 Jul 2002 17:57:43 +0200

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 Hi Everyone

 I need help for calculating some kind of standard deviation.

 Problem:

 Suppose we have arrays like the following, and we'd like to express
 the variance in the data as indicated

 a1 = (6 5 23 ) -> large variance
 a2 = (8e-6 5e-5 4e-23) -> large variance
 a3 = (8e-216 5e-44 4e-23) -> large variance (even though all numbers are almost zero !)
 a4 = (6 5 13 ) -> medium variance
 a5 = (8e-6 5e-5 4e-12) -> medium variance
 a6 = (8e-216 5e-144 4e-123) -> medium variance
 a7 = (6 5 3 ) -> small variance
 a8 = (8e-6 5e-5 4e-6 ) -> small variance
 a9 = (8e-216 5e-244 4e-223) -> small variance

 The point is that the variance should be a large value
 no matter whether the actual values or their logarithms
 are "different". However, if we use the data as is,
 v(a3) will be almost zero, and the same holds for its square
 root, the standard deviation. On the other hand, if we
 first do a logarithmic transformation

 a_i = ( log(a_i1) log(a_i2) log(a_i3) )

 and calculate the standard deviation, it is much too large
 in case of a9. Is there a "middle way"?

Down here are our calculations for standard deviations of Evalues
(logged and the normal ones), from the data above:

 ID a_i1 a_i2 a_i3 MEANe MEANle STDRRe STDRRle STDEVe STDEVle
 a1 6 5 23 1e+01 1 2e+02 1 1 1
 a2 8e-6 5e-5 4e-23 2e-05 -3e+01 1e-09 1e+03 2e-05 1
 a3 8e-216 5e-44 4e-23 1e-23 -3e+02 1e-45 1e+05 0 1
 a4 6 5 13 8 1 4e+01 0.4 1 0.9
 a5 8e-6 5e-5 4e-12 2e-05 -2e+01 1e-09 1e+02 2e-05 1
 a6 8e-216 5e-144 4e-123 1e-123 -4e+02 1e-245 3e+04 0 1
 a7 6 5 3 5 0.7 5 0.3 0.7 0.9
 a8 8e-6 5e-5 4e-6 2e-05 -1e+01 1e-09 0.3 2e-05 0.9
 a9 8e-216 5e-244 4e-123 1e-123 -4e+02 1e-245 3e+04 0 1

Note:
  STDRR = Standard Error, STDEV = Standard Deviation
  e = Normal Evalues, le =Logged Evalues "



 Intikhab Alam
 PhD student
 International NRW Graduate School in Bioinformatics and Genome Research
 University of Bielefeld
 Germany
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