There is a real etymologist on this list who researched my coinage
and acknowledged it. But before I introduce this expert who outranks
even such an esteemed one as you, prove your point.
You have a habit of bullying people, David. Come on. Give us a citation.
Find it, now. Put up or shut up.
>Just because you assert you saw, "RadLib," doesn't mean you actually saw it.
>No, I coined it. Find it elsewhere. Bring the fish to me, Dave.
>
>>No, Richard, you did NOT coin the phrase, I've seen it many times before,
>>its meaning, such as it has, is a term of contempt for supposed well-heeled
>>persons who support the Democrats. It has no relevance whatsoever to
>>political discussion outside the US domestic scene, and even there its
>>relevance is limited.
>>
>>Douglas Clark is also a fine editor who has given much of his time to other
>>writers, read Lynx if you doubt that.
>>
>>I love your notion that 'commonsense' rules in Business (haw haw). I've been
>>to marketing meetings y'know and their unreality could vie with Gorbachov's
>>points about the former Soviet Union's inner workings.
>>
>>Best
>>
>>Dave
>>
>>
>>David Bircumshaw
>>
>>Leicester, England
>>
>>Home Page
>>
>>A Chide's Alphabet
>>
>>Painting Without Numbers
>>
>>http://homepage.ntlworld.com/david.bircumshaw/index.htm
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Richard Dillon" <[log in to unmask]>
>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 7:04 PM
>>Subject: Re: no subject left! Lefts.
>>
>>
>>At last, you. The Real Clark!
>>
>>I coined the phrase to identify those who seek to impose Liberal
>>ideologies upon the general population(s) by means of government
>>edicts. Usually, RadLibs are to be found in the elite academic
>>groves. Radical Liberalism seeks to uproot the commonsensical modes
>>of everyday business, of Liberty, by imposing its visions of
>>"perfection" upon the innocent.
>>
>>RadLibs from Harvard and Cambridge organized _100 Days_. The book is
>>an international project. An adolescent, unmitigated, intemperate,
>>libelous agitprop attack on the newly elected American President is
>>its organizing excuse for misrepresenting, misunderstanding and
>>misguiding.
>>
>>RADICAL LIBERALISM leads to the exact opposite of its stated
>>intentions. [Quinn's First Law]. [Gorbachev has admitted,
>>finally(!), that this was the USSR OP's fatum.]
>>
>>Now, let us enjoy one of the great RadLib political liberation poems
>>of all time:
>>
>>>
>>>>Very sorry about it. There is nothing else on the TV here. But
>>>>I am puzzled why Osman didnt go for the White House. Perhaps
>>>>it is too small a target and the British were there first.
>>> But Osman has been brilliant. Very sad for the deaths.
>>
>>
>>Who was the genius who conjured this loveless brilliance?
>>
>>
>>
>>RD
>>
>>
>>
>>>What does 'RadLib' mean? It must be one of these quaint American
>>>expressions.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Douglas Clark, Bath, England mailto: [log in to unmask]
>>>Lynx: Poetry from Bath ..........
>>http://www.bath.ac.uk/~exxdgdc/lynx.html
>>>
>>>On Mon, 18 Mar 2002, Richard Dillon wrote:
>>>
>>>> RadLib Cannibals!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >Erminia
>> >> >
>> >> >I don't want to get drawn into this but I have to say there were
>> >>elements in
>> >> >your messages to Martin that +were+ patronising and even downright
>>rude.
>> >> >
>> >> >As for typos, why not use a spell-checker on your e-mails? They can be
>>>> >irritating but would also expunge the obvious mistakes. While in
>>respect of
>>>> >English as a fourth language, well the primary is dialect of this list
>>is
>>>> >English, I wouldn't even think of communicating to an Italian language
>>list
>>>> >in flawed speech, while if you are a tutor at an Oxford college while
>>not
>>>> >having a command of the host country's language how do you square that
>>with
>>>> >an incapacity to handle that language?
>>>> >
>>>> >With tea and biscuits?
>>>> >
>>>> >(And I do like the posts you send about Italian poetry btw)
>>>> >
>>>> >Best but Bewildered
>>>> >
>>>> >Dave
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >David Bircumshaw
>>>> >
>>>> >Leicester, England
>>>> >
>>>> >Home Page
>>>> >
>>>> >A Chide's Alphabet
>>>> >
>>>> >Painting Without Numbers
>>>> >
>>>> >http://homepage.ntlworld.com/david.bircumshaw/index.htm
>>>> >----- Original Message -----
>>>> >From: "Erminia Passannanti" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> >To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> >> >Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 3:49 PM
>>>> >Subject: Re: no subject
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >On Mon, 18 Mar 2002 11:24:45 +0100, Martin J. Walker <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> >wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >>Erminia, *you* didn't even understand that I fully understood the
>>Italian
>>>> >>for Kritik der reinen Vernunft (Critique, not Critic) and gave you a
>>brief
>>>> >>(slightly humorous) reply. I find your tone less "comical" than
>>>> >offensively
>>>> >>patronizing; one of the forms of ethical behaviour is to assume your
>>vis-à
>>>> >>vis is not a complete idiot.
>>>> >
>>>> >One: if I though you were an idiot, I would have treated you with
>>greatest
>>>> >kindness, respect and concern. Since I think you are not, I also
>>believe
>>>> >you can stand the challenge and resist running in tears to your Mummy
>>(the
>>>> >list Big_Mother) to ask protection from his naughty Italian girl
>>>> >who 'patronizes ' you.
>>>> >
>>>> >Two: Ethical behavior is what restrains me constantly from saying, all
>>the
>>>> >time, what I actually think of the style used on this list by all the
>>>> >other listees when they address each-other(from mandarinism to
>>brutalism,
>>>> >none of which appeals to me, to be frank). But my delicacy towards your
>>> > >bad manners is obviously not reciprocated, since every now and then,
>>from
>>> > >my screen, here springs out a head, which a regard as that of a
>>telematic
>>> > >mushroom, screaming 'Erminia is patronizing', 'Erminia is
>>>> >this...', 'Erminia is that...' (defining what I am supposed to be)
>>>> >
>>>> >Therefore, I have 2 options: either I start defining myself what your
>>>> >defects in communication are, a list which would take me ages to
>>compile,
>>>> >or I begin again evoking All the Holy Saints of the High circles,
>>still
>>>> >provided with the law parts and organs of their human bodies, not
>>leaving
>>>> >out any item which they contain.
>>>> >
>>>> >erminia
>>>>
>>>>
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