decline to use = decline to define
talk about unclear, sorry
L
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lawrence Upton" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: 28 November 2002 20:26
Subject: Re: Föstudagsstær?fræ?i
| My problem with your posts, Frederick, is that you promote or express your
| "treatments" for all sorts of conditions you perceive or, as it seems to
me,
| others tell you to perceive
|
| & I react, because they are morally repugnant to me
|
| We are so near, as so many times before in my life, destruction; and all I
| can do is at my low level is deny the validity of what looks to me like
your
| sneering, your violence and your simplicity - your usual response is to
| *mock moral positions as risible (It's not *you, it's what you say and
I'd
| oppose anyone)
|
| Now I would most like to debate, because I believe I can show you are
often
| wrong
|
| & that suspicion is encouraged by your evasion - asked to explain yourself
| you either don't reply or sneer - and I include in that repeated use of
| undefined jingoistic terms that you decline to use. To *me, this looks
like
| the kind of behaviour which can lead to mobs. (No mob will get off the
| ground if everyone has to explain their terms) More pertinently I cannot
| see anyone who has reason on their side should fear debate, especially
when
| they have joined a discussion list
|
| Just now, though, I don't even know what we are talking about...
|
| I may well be guilty of kicking it off this time. I don't know. I imagine
| that we both go into a particular mental state when we see the other's
name.
|
| I have taken to reading your mails - I used to bin them but I inferred
from
| other posts that some people were finding coherence in what you say; and I
| have been sampling. So I have taken to reading your posts and now I find
| references to myself - comparatives "like Upton" (as if you have any grasp
| where I am coming from - you never listen!) but then the meaning slips
| sideways
|
| Something about me and Mr Bircumshaw, I think
|
| I tried humour, best I could do at the time, and it's just brought more
| brown unpalatable verbal froth. I seem to have got to you; but I don't
know
| what you're talking about. Perhaps it's preferable to your political
| paranoia; but I suspect it's in addition.
|
| So if you have something to say to me, could you say it clearly, without
| sneering, without insult; and I'll reply in kind. If not, I suggest we
both
| let it lie
|
|
| L
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