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Subject:

Re: Chartership

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"Neilson, Ruth" <[log in to unmask]>

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LIS-CILIP <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Thu, 8 Aug 2002 12:59:45 +0100

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I think that although this would seem to give the chartered status more
value, (mandatory continuing professional development) it is perhaps not
practical for everyone.

I completed my PDR during my own free time.  It took up quite a bit of it!
In my own position I simply would not have the time to continually enter
into a process of revalidation should it require further report writing etc.
and to be honest, I probably wouldn't have the inclination to do so either.
It is accepted in my position that I will keep myself up to date with
current trends, products, ideas but to have to continually prove that I am
doing so via a report system just wouldn't be very practical.  The actual
process would need to be very carefully thought out.  We are not quite in
the same league as nurses, who need to continue their training as new
scientific developments take place, new practices, new prescriptions etc.  
Also, if our professional development were measured through training
attended, you then come across the problem of those who aren't fortunate
enough to attend training paid for by their employers and who simply
couldn't manage to do this...or the other issue of the majority of training
sessions taking place in the south (London) making it impractical for those
outside of London to attend.

I'm playing devil's advocate a little here I think - I too want to see my
professions' status raised and more respected, but it has to be thought out
properly, and must be achievable for all members in all areas.

Ruth

(Opinions expressed are my own and not those of my employers)

Ruth Neilson
Senior Information Officer
Norton Rose
Kempson House
Camomile Street
London
EC3A 7AN
Tel  +44 (0)20 7444 3140
Fax +44 (0)20 7444 3161
email : [log in to unmask]


-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Batchelor [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 08 August 2002 12:31
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Chartership


Chartership is often the beginning and end of continuing professional
development for many librarians. There should be a requirement to make
continuing professional development mandatory as in nursing.

Kevin Batchelor
Principal Librarian
Brent Library Service

Town Hall Library,
Forty Lane,
Wembley,
Middlesex,
HA9 9HV

tel:          020 8937 3503
mobile: 07947 068577
fax:         020 8937 3504
email:    [log in to unmask]


 

                      Pearl Valentine

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                      08/08/02 09:56 AM

                      Please respond to

                      LIS-CILIP

 

 





I have always looked on chartership as evidence of a commitment to
continuing professional development on the part of the individual and would
always encourage newly qualified librarians and those who have qualified at
some stage but not chartered to go ahead with it. In my view it marks out
those who are want to make librarianship a career and are willing to give
back something into the profession, from those who simply want a job
working
in a library. Undergoing the period of supervised training makes sure that
candidates have access to a range of job experiences, while putting
together
the professional development report establishes a habit of reflection on
practice and of routinely  evaluating the impact of what we are doing -
both
qualities that I would like to see more of in practising librarians.

I'm sorry that Dominic's experiences have given him such a negative view of
the process.

Pearl Valentine
Chief Librarian
North Eastern education & Library Board

        -----Original Message-----
        From:   Dominic Broadhurst [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
        Sent:   07 August 2002 16:10
        To:     [log in to unmask]
        Subject:        Chartership

        I personally think that the current Chartership is pretty much a
        waste of time and does not really carry much weight in the
        profession.  And this is from something who underwent the Route
        A in the old LA almost 10 years ago. Perhaps if this has changed
        significantly someoneone could let me know, but doesn't it still
        involve the writing of a PDR.

        I agree with the notion that having chartered status is a sign of a
        professional body and its member and other professions whose
        mechansim have to undertake various examinations etc such as
        accountants, lawyers, etc have such a mechanism.  Unfortunately
        if we are being brutally honest and whilst this is regrettable, we
still
        lag somewhat behind these professions not least in equivalent
        salaries and status(barring a few areas of our profession).  Our
        chartership procedure does little to change this and is also
        certainly not a guaranteed sign of an individuals professional
        knowledge or competence.

        Finally I think Chartership is also used by some employers to
        deliberately keep employment costs down and use it as a bar to
        staff salary advancement.   It seems paying a desultory £13-14,000
        for a graduate (often postgraduate) professional is not enough!
        Make them jump through a more hoops till paying them a decent
        wage seems to be the order of the day

        Dominic Broadhurst



        > I think that we all need to remember that to obtain Chartership
is
not the
        > same as educational qualifications.  In order to obtain Chartered
status
        > (MCLIP) we have to do quite an amount of work and effort to bring
ourselves
        > up to a higher professional status.  Chartership must be earned
above and
        > beyond educational and on the job training.  The fact that our
professional
        > organization promotes Chartership by telling employers that
Chartered
        > members are "professional qualified applicants" is a very good
thing.
        >






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