No masters degree in Holland available. Not yet, anyway...
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Fra: Henry Tsao [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sendt: 6. august 2001 14:01
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Emne: Re: SV: What do you think of "Doctor of Physiotherapy/ Physical
Thera py" ?
Isaac,
I agree with you in that we need to prove a lot of what we are doing, or
simply show ourselves and others that it is more effective.
As with a DPT and Master's been research... I think there is a difference.
You can do a Master's degree or a Doctorines, and not have to take the path
of research. That is why some uni's call it a clinical doctorate (and I know
the 2 in Australia already are clinical doctorates). It does give you an
opportunity to undergo research, but as you so clearly stated, research
isn't for everyone.
I think Salem's Master's of Manipulative Physiotherapy is more clinical
(most probably like the one I will be persueing next year). Are Master
degrees in Holland more research based?? Do you know if they are going to
bring out a DPT program in Holland? It is interesting the difference between
countries :)
Henry***
>From: "Neumann Isaac Rutger, Granheim"
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> py" ?
>Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 13:25:29 +0200
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>Hi Salim,
>
>Interesting topic... You mix 2 items though: Master in Man Phys and Doctor
>of Phys. I'll adress the last one.
>
>I think we, physiotherapists, are in desperate need of Doctors in
>Physiotherapy. Why? To prove stuff! Many ways of treatment in PT are not
>really proven to help. A lack of studies, bad studies of no studies at all.
>This makes our profession look bad; people don't take us serious and many
>times physiotherapist heavy big arguments amongst themselves because they
>claim that this or that treatment is not proven to help (like Bowen
>Technique for ex.: lack of research doesn't mean it DOESN'T help!)
>We need people to prove treatment modalities with reliable research.
>
>Should everybody be a doctor or master in PT? No, I don't think so. In
>Holland we have a 4 year bachelor PT degree. I get the impression that this
>education is better than the 4 year master degree in PT that Belgium has
>(sorry). And with that research is good, but you can't heal people with it.
>PT is a practical, hands-on profession. Mostly we need people in "the
>field".
>If I had to choose between master degree, manual therapy, acupunture,
>osteopathy, I definitly wouldn't choose for master degree. I would choose
>one of the more practical courses. But that's just me. Other people like to
>do research; not me! No patience...hehe.
>
>Summery: we need masters and doctors in PT to prove what we're doing.
>Nothing more, nothing less.
>
>Isaac
>
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>Fra: Salem Al-harthy [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>Sendt: 6. august 2001 10:28
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>Emne: What do you think of "Doctor of Physiotherapy/ Physical Therapy" ?
>
>
>
>Dear List,
>
>
>I am a post-graduate physiotherapy student, doing Master in Manipulative
>Physiotherapy at The University of Melbourne. I would appreciate your
>comments, views and opinions on the new professional degree "DOCTOR OF
>PHYSIOTHERAPY/ PHYSICAL THERAPY - DPT".
>
>* Is it strength or threat to our profession?
>* What your view of on the professional title "DOCTOR" ?
>* Will this new degree affect the "traditional physiotherapy /physical
>therapy programs"?
>
>Thank you in advance for your participation.
>
>Salim Al-Harthy PT
>
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