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Re: Reply to Liz

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Laurence Bathurst <[log in to unmask]>

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Laurence Bathurst <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Mon, 27 Aug 2001 23:54:03 +1000

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Pauline

I would like to encourage you to persist. Who knows what you may uncover for
us all to see. Who knows what we might hear in the recalled voices of the
perpetrators - thruth?  That which we dare not utter? Does the experience
turn itself to internalised loathing of disabilty? What comlpexities emerge
from these women's experiences that may otherwise be overlooked by
counselling interventions?  Surely that's worth knowing? From the
perspective of experiential education, the reflective process takes one back
to the experience where they attend to feelings and re-evaluate the
experience. This is the point at which new insights do occur. It is quite
likely that the research interview itself could be beneficial to the women
involved as you say. I don't know whether we can afford to throw the baby
out with the bathwater.

Best regards

Laurence Bathurst
School of Occupation and Leisure Sciences
Faculty of Health Sciences
University of Sydney

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----- Original Message -----
From: <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 8:13 PM
Subject: Reply to Liz


> n a message dated 27/08/01 09:35:20 GMT Daylight Time, [log in to unmask]
writes:
>
> >
> >  By the same token and in relation to work around disability and
domestic
> >  violence, disabled women do not  'choose' to be involved in
> >  oppressive/abusive relationships.
> >
> >  The social model concept does not have  to be initially offered to
> >  participants on social model language terms etc. and nor do we need to
> >  objectify impairment,    wouldn't that be enough to scare anyone away?
> >
> >  The road to empowerment surely must to be more than developing "
> > unpoliticised
> >  disabled, isolated people's consciousness".  Unless of course
researching
> >  disabled peoples lives is not actually about empowerment. Then if
that's
> the
> >  case, surely the researchers role will do  nothing other than
perpetuate
> > the
> >  oppression.
> >
> >  So in summary Pauline, I can see clearly why your research might be of
> >  interest to researchers at an academic level but I can't see what the
> direct
> >  benefits are to the disabled women you are researching, perhaps you
could
> >  enlighten me more please.
>
> Why can you see this research being of more interest to academics
(disabled
> or non-disabled) ... I really don't see your point
>
> This research is about raising awareness re dv and disabled women - there
is
> no research in this country which really explores it from disabled women'
> frames of reference - only from service providers (see Fiona Hill).  Is
this
> appropriate ... to explore the difficulties disabled women encounter from
a
> service providers's perspective?  There is some excellent research in
> Scotland though for Zero Tolerance (Macleod and Cosgrove) - if you are
> interested ... I wonder if they received the same amount of flak as I
have?
> Must get in contact with them.
>
> The aim of this research is to look at what women want, and in concert
with
> this I am involved in raising awareness among service providers.  I cannot
> advise service providers of disabled women's requirements, without
actually
> speaking to them/us. Again, I know there will be of disabled out there
still
> being abused ... but perhaps if we have an idea of how to reach these
women
> (through radio / free newspapers  and generally inventive publicity).
>
> Also, participants are also equipped with knowledge of assisting
disability
> and women's organisations, and perhaps contact with these orgs may go some
> way to hinder women individualising their experiences of disability and
dv.
> At the same time, service providers will be provided with participants'
> advice on how to assist women in abusive relationships (from women who
have
> been subjected to abuse).
>
> Maybe you feel this research is worthless .. you are entitled to your
opinion
> ... but ALL the disabled women I have spoken to have approached me, and
have
> verbalised their relief that such research is finally taking place.  They
> feel marginalised from the Women's Movement and indeed, some feel
> marginalised and excluded from the disability movement, in as much as they
> believe they are not perceived as possessing the 'correct credentials'.
You
> are very angry and frustrated and I am too (also a survivor of abuse), the
> lack of knowledge and attention given to this topic is guiding this
research.
>
> If I internalised all the negativity I received from within H.E., and
indeed,
> from a small minority of the movement, I would have given up my now.  But
it
> is my belief (and the participants), that this research is too important
...
> and believe me, it is not an easy option.  It is tough for the
participants
> and indeed myself ... evoking memories etc, and working within a disablist
> environment 52 weeks a year. But perhaps people want me to give up ...
> particularly abusers of disabled women (and men) ... I will not.
>
> Anyway must get on transcribing now
>
> Pauline
>
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