Dear Bob,
We don't use the full name any more, but historically, it is Centre for
Personal and Professional Development.
This is a very interesting area, as well as one we are obviously trying to
weigh up for our own benefit.
Best wishes.
Adam Sandelson
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: 12 June 2001 06:52
Subject: Re: Discontinuation of courses - links with academia
> Hi Adam,
> What is CPPD?
>
> We similarly, as an independant provider, have a four year programme of
> Humanistic & Integrative Counselling with limited class sizes. We do link
> with a local college who provide us with some financial help, as they can
> register our students as theirs, which in turn keeps our fees down and
keeps
> us accessable.
> However I have to say the sacrifices are considerable; satisfying their
> paperwork gods, their difficulty with boundaries, advanced planning,
> emotional literacy etc etc. We also have people who know nothing of
> counselling coming and checking up on out very experienced tutors so they
> can tick their boxes. The students told them where to get off on one
recent
> visit, but we do have a basically pleasant relationship with the people at
> the college and they trust us and do what they can !!
> A lot of patience is required.
>
> Universities seem to want us to pay them for having a connection so we
still
> have that on hold.
>
> I am just completing a psychotherapy masters and i am concerned at how the
> academic priorities take over from the therapeutic.
>
> bob
> Birmingham counselling centre
> www.counselling-direct.co.uk
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Adam Sandelson <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 9:30 PM
> Subject: Discontinuation of courses - links with academia
>
>
> > I was wondering about other people's experiences of running counselling
> > training courses, and whether they were involved with academic
> institutions
> > or not.
> >
> > I run the final year of the Advanced Diploma in Humanistic Integrative
> > Counselling at CPPD. We are a small private training organisation, with
> > small class sizes and we hope therefore we have quite a high quality
> > training which can value and take account of each of our trainees as
> > individuals. Although we are BACP Accredited, we don't at present have
> links
> > with a University.
> >
> > I have heard various views about how beneficial this has been for other
> > training providers, and was curious, in so far as people can discuss
this,
> > what others' experiences were of links with academia.
> >
> >
> >
> > Adam Sandelson MSc., BACP Acc
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Mary R Keogh <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: 11 June 2001 03:48
> > Subject: Re: Discontinuation of course
> >
> >
> > Wow!! you certainly sound really fired up Gerald. I salute your
passion
> > and completely agree with you on Academia (and it seems to apply to so
> many
> > other areas of life too). Whatever can't be audited simply doesn't
exist.
> > It's much more important to have some sort of piece of paper evidence
than
> > to have intangible qualities like commitment, caring or integrity.
> >
> > Yes, I know these places have to account to mammon but in doing so
they're
> > losing sight of what really counts in the courses they are providing and
> > eventually students will realise it and stop applying for them.
> >
> > These are of course my own views and not those of the institution for
whom
> I
> > work!
> >
> > Mary
> >
> >
> > >>> [log in to unmask] 06/11/01 03:00pm >>>
> > Dear Paul
> > It sound like they waited until you could be pensioned off and let this
> > coincide with trashing the course you head. The gits have done you and
> your
> > students up like a kipper. Do you know Paul, I am on the point of
getting
> > the hell out of anything to do with academia and therapy. The
bureaucrats
> > have ripped the heart from caring and freedom of thought. When someone
> > asked me who I should like to win the General Election I replied that I
> > couldn't give a toss as no Government would support anything that I once
> > felt passionately about. Indeed anyone who shows passion instead of
> moronic
> > obedience quickly has the spark of life extinguished from them.
> > Kindest
> > Gerald
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Paul Carney <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
> > Date: 11 June 2001 09:18
> > Subject: Discontinuation of course
> >
> >
> > >Dear list
> > >
> > >On a personal note, I have been informed that the BSc (Hons)
> > >Counselling 'top-up' course, for which I am the admissions and course
> > >tutor, is to be discontinued after the September intake of this year.
> > >
> > >It seems that the university considers the size of groups on this sort
of
> > >course to be not economical enough to continue supporting them and
> > >that, as I can retire in two years time, they can save money by not re-
> > >appointing.
> > >
> > >Mammon rules!
> > >
> > >
> > >Best wishes
> > >
> > >Paul Carney
> > >
> > >
> > >Paul Carney
> > >Senior Lecturer
> > >School of Health & Social Science
> > >Coventry University
> > >Priory St
> > >Coventry England CV1 5FB
> >
> >
>
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