Two years ago, we decided to form our own private training company, New
Paradigm Training Ltd, to run the course we were previously running at a
College of Further Ed for the college on a "franchise" basis. This is
somewhat of a misnomer in our view since we designed, developed and
initiated the course ourselves although, since we were employees of the
college at the time, it is technically a correct term. I won't say it's been
easy, but the whole experience is in a diferent league to working within the
college. We still have to cope with FEFC funding, validation, accreditation
etc. plus staffing payrolls banking and so on, but it really is worth it.
Politically, I'm ambivalent about what I guess amounts to some kind of PPP,
but, if it gives us the freedom to run the kind of courses we want in the
way that we want so be it.
Incedentally, I'm looking for somewhere in the Surrey/Sussex area to hold a
"post-graduate" residential weekend for about 20 people. Does anyone know of
somewhere that's reasonably priced in this area or within striking distance?
Thanks
Geoff Lamb MSc., Psychotherapist 119 Lingfield Road East Grinstead West
Sussex RH19 2EL 01342 315640 Mobile: 07949 153431
www.g.c.lamb.btinternet.co.uk/index.htm
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 6:52 AM
Subject: Re: Discontinuation of courses - links with academia
> Hi Adam,
> What is CPPD?
>
> We similarly, as an independant provider, have a four year programme of
> Humanistic & Integrative Counselling with limited class sizes. We do link
> with a local college who provide us with some financial help, as they can
> register our students as theirs, which in turn keeps our fees down and
keeps
> us accessable.
> However I have to say the sacrifices are considerable; satisfying their
> paperwork gods, their difficulty with boundaries, advanced planning,
> emotional literacy etc etc. We also have people who know nothing of
> counselling coming and checking up on out very experienced tutors so they
> can tick their boxes. The students told them where to get off on one
recent
> visit, but we do have a basically pleasant relationship with the people at
> the college and they trust us and do what they can !!
> A lot of patience is required.
>
> Universities seem to want us to pay them for having a connection so we
still
> have that on hold.
>
> I am just completing a psychotherapy masters and i am concerned at how the
> academic priorities take over from the therapeutic.
>
> bob
> Birmingham counselling centre
> www.counselling-direct.co.uk
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Adam Sandelson <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 9:30 PM
> Subject: Discontinuation of courses - links with academia
>
>
> > I was wondering about other people's experiences of running counselling
> > training courses, and whether they were involved with academic
> institutions
> > or not.
> >
> > I run the final year of the Advanced Diploma in Humanistic Integrative
> > Counselling at CPPD. We are a small private training organisation, with
> > small class sizes and we hope therefore we have quite a high quality
> > training which can value and take account of each of our trainees as
> > individuals. Although we are BACP Accredited, we don't at present have
> links
> > with a University.
> >
> > I have heard various views about how beneficial this has been for other
> > training providers, and was curious, in so far as people can discuss
this,
> > what others' experiences were of links with academia.
> >
> >
> >
> > Adam Sandelson MSc., BACP Acc
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Mary R Keogh <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: 11 June 2001 03:48
> > Subject: Re: Discontinuation of course
> >
> >
> > Wow!! you certainly sound really fired up Gerald. I salute your
passion
> > and completely agree with you on Academia (and it seems to apply to so
> many
> > other areas of life too). Whatever can't be audited simply doesn't
exist.
> > It's much more important to have some sort of piece of paper evidence
than
> > to have intangible qualities like commitment, caring or integrity.
> >
> > Yes, I know these places have to account to mammon but in doing so
they're
> > losing sight of what really counts in the courses they are providing and
> > eventually students will realise it and stop applying for them.
> >
> > These are of course my own views and not those of the institution for
whom
> I
> > work!
> >
> > Mary
> >
> >
> > >>> [log in to unmask] 06/11/01 03:00pm >>>
> > Dear Paul
> > It sound like they waited until you could be pensioned off and let this
> > coincide with trashing the course you head. The gits have done you and
> your
> > students up like a kipper. Do you know Paul, I am on the point of
getting
> > the hell out of anything to do with academia and therapy. The
bureaucrats
> > have ripped the heart from caring and freedom of thought. When someone
> > asked me who I should like to win the General Election I replied that I
> > couldn't give a toss as no Government would support anything that I once
> > felt passionately about. Indeed anyone who shows passion instead of
> moronic
> > obedience quickly has the spark of life extinguished from them.
> > Kindest
> > Gerald
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Paul Carney <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
> > Date: 11 June 2001 09:18
> > Subject: Discontinuation of course
> >
> >
> > >Dear list
> > >
> > >On a personal note, I have been informed that the BSc (Hons)
> > >Counselling 'top-up' course, for which I am the admissions and course
> > >tutor, is to be discontinued after the September intake of this year.
> > >
> > >It seems that the university considers the size of groups on this sort
of
> > >course to be not economical enough to continue supporting them and
> > >that, as I can retire in two years time, they can save money by not re-
> > >appointing.
> > >
> > >Mammon rules!
> > >
> > >
> > >Best wishes
> > >
> > >Paul Carney
> > >
> > >
> > >Paul Carney
> > >Senior Lecturer
> > >School of Health & Social Science
> > >Coventry University
> > >Priory St
> > >Coventry England CV1 5FB
> >
> >
>
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