SOMEONE IS GETTING OUR MAIL AND RESPONDING TO IT PERSONALLY WITH A VIRUS
ATTACHED. I AM BOLD PRINTING THIS BECAUSE IT IS URGENT. HER NAME IS ALISON
NAGLE SHE RESPONDS PERSSONALLY WITH YOUR MESSAGE IN THE EMAIL. THERE IS AN
ATTACHED. THE MOMENT YOU OPEN THE MAIL NORTON KICKS IN WARNING YOU.
PLEASE TAKE HEAD SHE IS EITHER A MEMEBER AND DOESN'T KNOW IT OR AN
INFILITRATOR.
MY MAIL SUBJECT WAS WAIS III AND THERAPIST SHARING PERSONAL EXPERIENCE SO
ACCESS TO OUR MAIL IS DEFINITE.
PAT
On Mon, 18 Jun 2001 07:42:59 +0100, Discussion on theoretical and research
issues in counselling psychology wrote:
> Dear Gerald
>
> > Dear Paul
> > To be perfectly honest I can't remember where this thread started.
>
> I expect that I am probably feeling a little defensive about this whole
> subject for two particular reasons. The thread started with me sharing
> with the list that the course for which I am Course and Admissions
> Tutor (BSc Counselling) was being discontinued - hence the 'slamming'
> of 'academia' was a bit close to the bone for me. However, I personally
> believe that we as therapists NEED to continue our learning and our
> education too. I have known too many people that have caled
> themselves 'counsellors' that I really wouldn't trust with anyone. I
> appreciate that having 'book learning' or whatever does not
> automatically mean that the person can use it, but having none at all
> certainly means the person can't use it.
>
>
> > regulating bodies. I find the vision of these bodies to be blinkered,
> > probably because they are self appointed and consider that only they
are
> > worthy of judging who is or is not a good therapist.
>
> I think we need to recognise that the bodies that exist are composed of
> therapists (Incidentally that is one of the major factors that define a
> 'profession' - that is, an internally regulated organisation). Would you
> want none therapists telling us what we should and shouldn't do and
> who should and shouldn't be qualified?
>
> Life experience IS useful, but I have also known some people with life
> experience who have been unable to move on from that experience and
> use their 'counselling' as a way to vicariously attempt to 'treat'
> themselves - again this is not all therapists that have experienced some
> trauma and there are many that have used their own experiences to
> great advantage in helping others. I would not 'condemn' those that do
> and I would hope that others won't condemn those that seek a degree
> level education just because others haven't.
>
> I have to say that I disagree that 'too many therapists sit behind their
> academic achievements without establishing contact' and that 'too many
> course tutors give places purely on academic ability'. I think that it is
> 'negatively labelling' those with degree's to say that and seemingly
> arguing that those who DON'T have degrees never sit behind their
> diploma or fail to make contact. There is always a danger in
> generalising anything - unless there has been research to confirm the
> findings.
>
> Universities - as with colleges - have a certain stanbdard for admission
> to courses that has to be met. For my own course, as with many
> others, this was a Diploma in Counselling. If this is 'academic ability'
> then yes we do discriminate, the reason for this is that the course (as a
> 'top-up' degree) does not teach the skills of counselling. It assumes
> that the candidate already has those from their previous training, it
> seeks to further the student's knowledge and application of theory to
> practise. Personally I would not like to see somebody that trained X
> number of years ago and had not done any further training'education
> since their initial training.
>
> I accept your 'shopping list' of achievements (smile), but wonder why
> you seem so dismissive of others with a similar 'shopping list'?
>
>
>
> Best wishes
>
> Paul Carney
>
>
> Paul Carney
> Senior Lecturer
> School of Health & Social Science
> Coventry University
> Priory St
> Coventry England CV1 5FB
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