Rowley,
Please can you say why you have problems with the scenario you describe.
Personally, I think anyone who perpetrates these sort of things on someone
else deserves all they get. Anyway, i think it's very unlikely that such
severe injury as stabbing would go unreported.
Rocky
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From: "Rowley Cottingham" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 6:15 PM
Subject: Re: Using injury data for violence prevention
> . Many of us know
> > one or
> > two pubs/clubs that create a lot of problems. Why shouldn't the
> > licensing
> > authorities be aware of how many A&E attendances came from that club
> > before
> > they decide about renewing the licence?
> > Shouldn't BAEM be issuing some guidance on this?
> >
> > Matthew
> >
>
> The Police surely also know about these, as I pointed out in my original
posting. It is extent not location that we are being asked to
> supply. I don't know if the information will be passed to licensing
authorities. I agree that there are other measures in the original paper
> (BMJ 1998;316:879-80) some of which are less contentious. The reason I
have raised the topic is that I have seen no debate (apart from
> witnessing a lot of disquiet at the RSM) and that it seems likely to me
that this may be a way of forcing us to provide other data to the
> Police if we do not debate this properly now. I also think that his 'cure'
is hopelessly simplistic, and will simply displace violent activity. I
> reiterate that I am all in favour of reducing the suffering of needless
interpersonal violence; what I am not convinced about is that this is
> a long-term cure or that we should compromise our independence.
>
> Let us take a hypothetical situation. I pass to my local force the
information that there were 5 assaults in the month of September in the
> vicinity of the "Rat and Macaw", one of which was a stabbing in the chest.
The Police check up and find they know nothing about a
> stabbing in my town in September. As from PACE (The Police and Criminal
Evidence Act) from I think 1998, they HAVE to act on any
> information obtained, the next thing I find is a senior officer at the
reception with a request for further information about a serious
> arrestable offence that occurred on or about... He has the PACE
authorisation to request notes and full details and I have to comply.
>
> This is a perfectly possible scenario.
>
> Best wishes,
>
>
> Rowley Cottingham
>
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