Dear All,
Please find attached the last two weekly GridPP Project Management
Board Meeting minutes of 2001. The latest minutes can be found each week
in:
http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/~doyle/GridPP/PMB/minutes/this-week.txt
(as well as being listed with other minutes e.g. 011217.txt).
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, Tony
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Tony Doyle, GridPP Project Leader Telephone: +44-141-330 5899
Rm 482, Kelvin Building Telefax: +44-141-330 5881
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GridPP PMB Minutes 15 - 17th December 2001
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Present: Dave Britton, Nick Brook, Pete Clarke, Tony Doyle,
Steve Lloyd, Robin Middleton
Report back from Oversight Committee - SLL & PELC
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They appreciate the size of the job and the challenges, glue between expts,
CERN and DataGrid.
- better definition of connected projects needed
- how does expt work get Grid enabled by the middleware
- how is infrastructure rolled out (e.g. what control over SRIF
infrastructure), what is the overall coordination
- need executive summary in the reports given
- risk assessment
- more work on Gantt chart (Pete & Daron)
- description of the successes expected from GridPP - is this the high level
deliverables
- more info on operational "difficulties"
- what is the interaction with sysadmins, how do we inform them about the
Grid
- Want us to take a lead on resolving the WP5 situation - a benchmark of the
GridPP management ability - this is seen as critical.
- Review the GridPP website information
- How will the next SRIF (etc) round be co-ordinated
- What are the links with the eScience centres and the Grid Support Centres
Next meeting will be in March and they will provide a list of what they
require. Concern expressed on control over the posts allocated.
PELC would like a date that RAL commits to for the D5.1, D5.2.
ACTION: TD & RPM to review the WP5 situation offline (and update the
recovery plan)
PELC expressed concern that in formulating the Gantt chart GridPP do not
have full control over the the deliverables. Nevertheless PELC will work
with Daron on this and ask the WP liaison people to produce the best they
know on this.
Concern expressed about GridPP ability to manage the Tier-2 centres,
though agreed that this is very difficult.
ACTION: TD to iterate with Oversight cttee on understanding this issue.
Concern on links with the eScience centres - we should name contacts for
each centre
ACTION: SLL will write to the directors of each of the eScience centres
on how best to work together.
ACTION: TD to talk to Guy Rickett on formal feedback from the cttee before
15th PMB Jan
Tier-A and BaBar
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Funding profile is established as 1:2, 1:1 and 2:1 LHC:BaBar over the next
3 years. Should be driven by science requirements rather than the higher
level concerns. The 4th year is likely to remain at 1/3rd of funding,
though this is very uncertain. Roger should also input the contribution
from the BaBar Tier-2 monte carlo centres around the UK into the overall
BaBar negotiations, in order to maintain constant funding reported back to
BaBar. PMB endorses this approach so that the scaling up of LHC resources
remains an important consideration. Along with BaBar resources in FR and
IN there will be adequate resources for BaBar when aggregated together.
Allocation of posts
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2 expt requirements (ATLAS installation/validation and other expts.) were
not fulfilled by the PRSC. However, the PMB endorses the allocation of
posts. Each institute should now contact Guy Rickett to speed through the
RG2 process (or equivalent for CLRC) so that the recruitment process can
start as soon as possible. The question of re-tendering with new resources
for the unfunded areas was raised, but it was felt that one should first
look to see if the work can be carried out with existing effort.
ACTION : NB, TD and Jon Butterworth to get together on installation and
validation bid from ATLAS.
The other unfunded post was under the "other expts". Question arose from
IC that maybe a 0.5FTE post could be funded for this using up money which
is likely to be unspent because of the delays implicit in the recruitment
process. This was not accepted.
DECISION: PMB should review this further downstream once the recruitment
process is underway.
There is the possibility that UKDMC may wish to become part of GridPP in an
"unfunded" capacity.
ACTION: TD to follow up with EPCC on the use of the UKQCD post and
whether there are implicit benefits for the "other expts".
ACTION: SLL to talk to Liverpool on the outcome of the allocations
Next Meeting (VC) on 7th Jan 2002 with the usual arrangements.
GridPP PMB Minutes 14 - 10th December 2001
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Present: Nick Brook, Pete Clarke, Tony Doyle, Steve Lloyd, Les Robertson
ATD had had communication with regard to the 2002 collaboration meetings:
Cambridge mtg. is confirmed for 14-15th February 2002
Manchester mtg. will be some time in May.
IC meeting will shift from November to the end of September 2002, so as
not to conflict with term time.
LR updated the meeting on the CERN recruitment. In the recent interviews
there were 11 qualified candidates (2 still have outstanding checks with
referees) It had been agreed with Neil that options would be possible for
contracts: (i) PPARC fellowship at a university on LTA; (ii) CERN
fellowship, or (iii) CERN staff position. PPARC will decide on the
contract to offer.
SLL informed us that the peer review committee had met and had come to a
decision. These would be announced pending comments from the Oversight
committee.
There was discussion on the meeting with the Oversight committee on 14th
December. They had been little if any guidance from the committee of what
was expected. The areas of recruitment, deliverables & milestones were
highlighted as area of possible concern. PC explained the
charts/spreadsheets proposed for monitoring DataGrid effort and the posts
due to be allocated to applications. These will be discussed at the
Technical Board (TB) meeting later this evening. ATD will update the
current proposed status report to reflect the current posts.
ATD will ask LR to ensure that the CERN resource manager should liase with
DB. ATD reminded us that the CERN TB contact is Tony Cass.
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