Thank you, Roger.
Terrie

> Terrie
>
> The 'jet' reference is to Whitby, North Yorkshire. There is a lot of jet
> available from the cliffs there and jewellery is made there from it. Not
> something that I would expect our Transatlantic cousins to know. Caedmon
and
> Hilda were residents of the abbey at Whitby. He a herdsman and she as
> abbess.
>
> The full story is available at:
> http://www.monksofadoration.org/caedmon.html
> Best of surfing
> Roger.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "tlrelf" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 3:52 PM
> Subject: Re: National Poetry Day (edit)
>
>
> > I went through a lot of saints myself looking for this.  I didn't come
> across St. Hilda, though.  I enjoyed the process...What was the reference
to
> "jet", though?
> > Terrie
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: Vera Rich
> >   To: [log in to unmask]
> >   Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 3:51 AM
> >   Subject: Re: National Poetry Day (edit)
> >
> >
> >   Congratulations!!!!  Of course it is St Hilda...  precisely because of
> Caedmon!
> >
> >   (The Catholic official lives and directories often miss out the really
> important things ...And not even under the papacy of 'Andrzej Jawien' have
> poets been given the importance they deserve!'.)
> >
> >   Please let us have your postal address  so that we can send you your
> MANIFOLD's in due course.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >   This year, we shall be starting our Hilda-tide celebrations on the
> vigil, and carry through to 'bright Cecilia'.
> >
> >   Once again, congratulations!
> >
> >   Vera
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: Roger Collett <[log in to unmask]>
> >   To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >   Sent: 01 October 2001 08:34
> >   Subject: Re: National Poetry Day (edit)
> >
> >
> >   > Vera
> >   >
> >   > OK, St Hilda seems to be the one you are referring to.
> >   > 17 Nov is her saint's day.
> >   > However the official patronage ascribed by the Catholic Church is:
> >   > Patroness and supporter of learning and culture, including patronage
> of the
> >   > poet Caedmon..
> >   > Not exactly the answer that you seem to be looking for.
> >   >
> >   > Roger
> >   >
> >   > ----- Original Message -----
> >   > From: "Vera Rich" <[log in to unmask]>
> >   > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >   > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 5:51 AM
> >   > Subject: Re: National Poetry Day (edit)
> >   >
> >   >
> >   > > If 'worm' as used in fishing, and pronounced in 'received
standard',
> it
> >   > > rhymes with the following :
> >   > >
> >   > > germ, firm,  sperm, squirm, term, perm (= as noun =permanent wave
in
> hair,
> >   > > as verb  a) to give such a wave, d) to  'permutate' - term used in
> filling
> >   > > up coupons for football pools - a sort of gambling based on
soccer),
> Herm
> >   > > (phallic good-luck outside ancient Greek house) - I cannot think
of
> any
> >   > more
> >   > > for the moment....
> >   > >
> >   > > But if it is the Langton Worm... well I have heard that sung to
> rhyme with
> >   > > 'form'..
> >   > >
> >   > > However, some of you northerners may have your own thoughts on
that!
> >   > >
> >   > > But while on the subject of Northern England....
> >   > >
> >   > > Joanna is thinking on the right lines re 17 November..     Ceciia,
> (on
> >   > > 22nd ) a Roman early Christian has no direct connection with
English
> >   > > poety...except  of course  through Dryden's Ode...  (But, if one
> wants a
> >   > > prolonged celebration, her day makes a suitable closing date! )
> >   > >
> >   > > But - prize of a year's subscription to MANIFOLD for the first
> person who
> >   > > can name the saint who is patron of English-language poetry... and
> say
> >   > why!
> >   > >
> >   > > And to make it easier... here is a clue for you - 'jet'
> >   > >
> >   > > (if no one has an answer by this time tomorrow, I shall add
another
> >   > clue...
> >   > > and if necessary another...
> >   > >
> >   > >
> >   > >
> >   > >
> >   > >
> >   > >
> >   > >
> >   > >
> >   > >
> >   > > .
> >   > >
> >   > >
> >   > >
> >   > >
> >   > >
> >   > > ----- Original Message -----
> >   > > From: tlrelf <[log in to unmask]>
> >   > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >   > > Sent: 01 October 2001 04:34
> >   > > Subject: Re: National Poetry Day (edit)
> >   > >
> >   > >
> >   > > > LOL!
> >   > > > She has this thing for worms, too.  When we link our pinkie
> fingers, she
> >   > > > calls that "worms hugging".
> >   > > > I learn a lot about poetry from her...
> >   > > > Terrie
> >   > > > P.S. What rhymes with "worm"? hehe
> >   > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >   > > > From: "Helen Clare" <[log in to unmask]>
> >   > > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >   > > > Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 12:29 PM
> >   > > > Subject: Re: National Poetry Day (edit)
> >   > > >
> >   > > >
> >   > > > > I think children should be encouraged to find worms that rhyme
> at
> >   > every
> >   > > > > possible opportunity.
> >   > > > > Actually that reminds me of some poets I know. Least said
> soonest
> >   > > mended!
> >   > > > > H
> >   > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >   > > > > From: tlrelf <[log in to unmask]>
> >   > > > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >   > > > > Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 7:07 PM
> >   > > > > Subject: Re: National Poetry Day (edit)
> >   > > > >
> >   > > > >
> >   > > > > > I have to laugh, because I was thinking about The Poetry
Worm,
> and
> >   > > wrote
> >   > > > > > "worm" instead of "word".  What a slip...heheh
> >   > > > > >
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> >