Terrie

The 'jet' reference is to Whitby, North Yorkshire. There is a lot of jet
available from the cliffs there and jewellery is made there from it. Not
something that I would expect our Transatlantic cousins to know. Caedmon and
Hilda were residents of the abbey at Whitby. He a herdsman and she as
abbess.

The full story is available at:
http://www.monksofadoration.org/caedmon.html
Best of surfing
Roger.

----- Original Message -----
From: "tlrelf" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: National Poetry Day (edit)


> I went through a lot of saints myself looking for this.  I didn't come
across St. Hilda, though.  I enjoyed the process...What was the reference to
"jet", though?
> Terrie
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Vera Rich
>   To: [log in to unmask]
>   Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 3:51 AM
>   Subject: Re: National Poetry Day (edit)
>
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>   Congratulations!!!!  Of course it is St Hilda...  precisely because of
Caedmon!
>
>   (The Catholic official lives and directories often miss out the really
important things ...And not even under the papacy of 'Andrzej Jawien' have
poets been given the importance they deserve!'.)
>
>   Please let us have your postal address  so that we can send you your
MANIFOLD's in due course.
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>   This year, we shall be starting our Hilda-tide celebrations on the
vigil, and carry through to 'bright Cecilia'.
>
>   Once again, congratulations!
>
>   Vera
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>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Roger Collett <[log in to unmask]>
>   To: <[log in to unmask]>
>   Sent: 01 October 2001 08:34
>   Subject: Re: National Poetry Day (edit)
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>
>   > Vera
>   >
>   > OK, St Hilda seems to be the one you are referring to.
>   > 17 Nov is her saint's day.
>   > However the official patronage ascribed by the Catholic Church is:
>   > Patroness and supporter of learning and culture, including patronage
of the
>   > poet Caedmon..
>   > Not exactly the answer that you seem to be looking for.
>   >
>   > Roger
>   >
>   > ----- Original Message -----
>   > From: "Vera Rich" <[log in to unmask]>
>   > To: <[log in to unmask]>
>   > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 5:51 AM
>   > Subject: Re: National Poetry Day (edit)
>   >
>   >
>   > > If 'worm' as used in fishing, and pronounced in 'received standard',
it
>   > > rhymes with the following :
>   > >
>   > > germ, firm,  sperm, squirm, term, perm (= as noun =permanent wave in
hair,
>   > > as verb  a) to give such a wave, d) to  'permutate' - term used in
filling
>   > > up coupons for football pools - a sort of gambling based on soccer),
Herm
>   > > (phallic good-luck outside ancient Greek house) - I cannot think of
any
>   > more
>   > > for the moment....
>   > >
>   > > But if it is the Langton Worm... well I have heard that sung to
rhyme with
>   > > 'form'..
>   > >
>   > > However, some of you northerners may have your own thoughts on that!
>   > >
>   > > But while on the subject of Northern England....
>   > >
>   > > Joanna is thinking on the right lines re 17 November..     Ceciia,
(on
>   > > 22nd ) a Roman early Christian has no direct connection with English
>   > > poety...except  of course  through Dryden's Ode...  (But, if one
wants a
>   > > prolonged celebration, her day makes a suitable closing date! )
>   > >
>   > > But - prize of a year's subscription to MANIFOLD for the first
person who
>   > > can name the saint who is patron of English-language poetry... and
say
>   > why!
>   > >
>   > > And to make it easier... here is a clue for you - 'jet'
>   > >
>   > > (if no one has an answer by this time tomorrow, I shall add another
>   > clue...
>   > > and if necessary another...
>   > >
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>   > >
>   > > ----- Original Message -----
>   > > From: tlrelf <[log in to unmask]>
>   > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
>   > > Sent: 01 October 2001 04:34
>   > > Subject: Re: National Poetry Day (edit)
>   > >
>   > >
>   > > > LOL!
>   > > > She has this thing for worms, too.  When we link our pinkie
fingers, she
>   > > > calls that "worms hugging".
>   > > > I learn a lot about poetry from her...
>   > > > Terrie
>   > > > P.S. What rhymes with "worm"? hehe
>   > > > ----- Original Message -----
>   > > > From: "Helen Clare" <[log in to unmask]>
>   > > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
>   > > > Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 12:29 PM
>   > > > Subject: Re: National Poetry Day (edit)
>   > > >
>   > > >
>   > > > > I think children should be encouraged to find worms that rhyme
at
>   > every
>   > > > > possible opportunity.
>   > > > > Actually that reminds me of some poets I know. Least said
soonest
>   > > mended!
>   > > > > H
>   > > > > ----- Original Message -----
>   > > > > From: tlrelf <[log in to unmask]>
>   > > > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
>   > > > > Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 7:07 PM
>   > > > > Subject: Re: National Poetry Day (edit)
>   > > > >
>   > > > >
>   > > > > > I have to laugh, because I was thinking about The Poetry Worm,
and
>   > > wrote
>   > > > > > "worm" instead of "word".  What a slip...heheh
>   > > > > >
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