Roger, you are being horribly mathematical here. Loosen up, man, play it by
ear! Some sonnets hardly rhyme at all. What clinches the form is the 'turn'
between lines 8 and 9, in the Petrarchan variety, and the summing-up in the
last two lines for the Elizabethan. On that count, as well as metre and
rhyme-scheme, David's sonnet is a valid Petrarchan one.
Joanna
----- Original Message -----
From: Roger Collett <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 6:17 PM
Subject: Re: Bloodlines
> Garbro.
>
> Sonnets these days do not necessarily conform to a set rhyme scheme,
> if my maths is correct, it is possible to arrange 14 iambic pentameters in
> almost 200,000,000 rhyme schemes and _all_ are possible variants of the
> sonnet form.
> The two most popular forms are the Shakespearean and Spenserian which both
> end in rhyming couplets. The third popular form, Petrarchan,usually
divides
> into an octave(octet)of two quatrains linked by rhyme.(abbaabba) and a
> sestet, usually of two tercets also linked by rhyme (such as cdeedc,
cdecde
> or even cdedce).
> David therefore has a perfectly valid form.
>
> Hope this short explanation of a complex subject is helpful,
> Roger.
> see my updated site at http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "garydawg" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 5:43 PM
> Subject: Re: Bloodlines
>
>
> of folk who found that progress bears a cost.
> I wonder, were their spirits to return,
> would they stand silent, awed by all our gains,
> or stricken, seeing everything we've lost?
>
> David, always a pleasure to read you, but a question. I thought the end
> couplet always rhymed (though nothing is always).
>
> Thanks.
>
> Gary
>
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http://gardawg.homestead.com/homestead.html,
>
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>
> Poets for Peace. ˇPoemas sí, balas no!
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