At 05:51 PM 2/6/01 +1000, you wrote:
This
>is a topic I am especially interested in because part of my critical work on
>Australia's 'new 90s' poetry (once 'emergent') is about creating different
>terms with which to discuss the new poetry and the new poetry communities.

that's right, communities like this one which exist on no physical
landscape, but in an agreed-upon metaphorical space, cyberspace.
and there is joy in the real-time

and there _is_ a division amongst poets.
those that have embraced the new technology, and those that haven't.
and yes this is definitely the 'poetryetc'/kinsella school list.
and there are identifiable characteristics of members of this school, if
not in the style of their poetry, but in the tone of their emails.
and none of us are tied to one list, one school.

and the on-the-ground schools are centred around poetry performance venues
and small publications.



i see an infinite space that we can infinitely expand into, i see few
restrictions.

i see disembodiment, re-embodiment and multiple being, the multiple
subject, the pluralist i.

i see australian poets all over the net at ub poetics list, webartery,
trace, here, net-time, triumph of content, wreyetings, and they are active.
represented in the new on-line journals.

and this is just an opinion, but i think poetry on the page really has been
going around in circles for about twenty years. maybe thirty.
nothing really new or exciting has happened in that time.
ok there are some very good poetry practitioners, most people on this list
i suppose have achieved as craftspeople in the art but where is the
dynamism you found in the olson school or the beats or the language poets,
or even the school of 68.

i find that dynamism amongst hypermedia poets and their on-line
experimentation.

i welcome the internet and the virtualizing of poetry.

irrespective of the medium, the mode of delivery, poetry is poetry.
poetry will do what poetry does.
at the moment i am bored with poetry on the page, it is visually
predictable and is just going over the same landscape over and over again.

well bye
love to all the community
komninos

>I feel passionately about NOT using terms such as 'poetry wars' and
>'schools', and gossamer lines of flight is one way (not THE way) of thinking
>about the way 'new' poetry communities are being created and how they work
>(lines of flight is a Deleuzian borrowing and I think someone on that
>previous discussion employed the term gossamer).
>
>regards
>deb
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Candice Ward <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 5:31 PM
>Subject: Re: A Caution (P.S.)
>
>
>> Just wanted to add, in response to Jill's comments re the SMH article's
>> having gone "international," that I'm to blame for that, remember, not JK,
>> as I was the one who posted it to Poetryetc. Of course, that makes DEB the
>> real culprit (if anyone's to be jack-used for having let Sydney poetry
>news
>> out of Australia and onto the "world stage," as someone in the
>> PoetryEspresso thread termed it)--but maybe this exemplifies what she
>means
>> by those (to me, utterly mystifying) references to "gossamer flight."
>>
>> 'Night y'all,
>>
>> Candice
>>
>
komninos's cyberpoetry site http://student.uq.edu.au/~s271502
cyberpoet@slv site http://www.experimedia.vic.gov.au/cyberpoet/
komninos zervos, tel. +61 7 5552 8872
lecturer in cyberStudies,
school of arts,
gold coast campus,
griffith university,
pmb 50, gold coast mail centre
queensland, 9726
australia.